Comments on: The Toronto Star’s archaic views killed Zerbs Blog, not Zerb. http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:42:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Marky Mark http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2878 Marky Mark Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:25:05 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2878 Dana has a point that there are those who show up in the comments section of a politic blog looking for a fight. I only read progressive blogs so I don't know if this applies in the same way to conservative blogs. What I have observed at times and consider to be a more serious problem is the appearance in the comments section of anonymous commenters who post umambiguous hate speech. How many times has "arthurdecco" been able to post one of his rants complete with links to sites like Jewish Tribal Review? I'm sure that managing both types of comments is difficult for bloggers, especially those who have high traffic. Maybe one solution is to accept comments only on a non-anonymous basis from registered users. You have to give a real name and address to submit a letter to the editor and perhaps blog comments should be handled in a similar fashion. Otherwise people aren't accountable for what they say and the apparent cloak of anonymity seems to drive some people to post what they couldn't otherwise have published.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2878','Marky Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2878','Marky Mark','Dana has a point that there are those who show up in the comments section of a politic blog looking for a fight. I only read progressive blogs so I don\'t know if this applies in the same way to conservative blogs.\r\n\r\nWhat I have observed at times and consider to be a more serious problem is the appearance in the comments section of anonymous commenters who post umambiguous hate speech. How many times has \"arthurdecco\" been able to post one of his rants complete with links to sites like Jewish Tribal Review?\r\n\r\nI\'m sure that managing both types of comments is difficult for bloggers, especially those who have high traffic. Maybe one solution is to accept comments only on a non-anonymous basis from registered users. You have to give a real name and address to submit a letter to the editor and perhaps blog comments should be handled in a similar fashion. Otherwise people aren\'t accountable for what they say and the apparent cloak of anonymity seems to drive some people to post what they couldn\'t otherwise have published.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dana has a point that there are those who show up in the comments section of a politic blog looking for a fight. I only read progressive blogs so I don’t know if this applies in the same way to conservative blogs.

What I have observed at times and consider to be a more serious problem is the appearance in the comments section of anonymous commenters who post umambiguous hate speech. How many times has “arthurdecco” been able to post one of his rants complete with links to sites like Jewish Tribal Review?

I’m sure that managing both types of comments is difficult for bloggers, especially those who have high traffic. Maybe one solution is to accept comments only on a non-anonymous basis from registered users. You have to give a real name and address to submit a letter to the editor and perhaps blog comments should be handled in a similar fashion. Otherwise people aren’t accountable for what they say and the apparent cloak of anonymity seems to drive some people to post what they couldn’t otherwise have published.

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]]> By: Classic http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2857 Classic Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:49:29 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2857 _The Star still operates four other blogs and maintains links to two other off-website blogs of its writing staff. Plus another blog, Political Notebook, and a weekly Fashion Q&A page show their latest entries dated earlier this month. But I, too, fondly miss the Azerbic media blog.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2857','Classic'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2857','Classic','_The Star still operates four other blogs and maintains links to two other off-website blogs of its writing staff. Plus another blog, Political Notebook, and a weekly Fashion Q&amp;A page show their latest entries dated earlier this month. But I, too, fondly miss the Azerbic media blog.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> _The Star still operates four other blogs and maintains links to two other off-website blogs of its writing staff. Plus another blog, Political Notebook, and a weekly Fashion Q&A page show their latest entries dated earlier this month. But I, too, fondly miss the Azerbic media blog.
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]]> By: Dana http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2855 Dana Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:50:57 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2855 If you spent much time at azerbic (Antonia's blog) you'll know that she became a favoured target for every slobber covered wacked out Canahoodian wingnut lurking in the oozy, slimy depths of the internets. It gets wearing being personally attacked. And I suspect that what got posted was only a fraction of what got sent - so imagine how much worse the shit was we never read. The Star is certainly looking for a way to insure their survival as the journalistic climate shifts and changes. I hope they take their time and do it well and thrive. On the other hand, I hope the Globe jumps on every bandwagon that passes within earshot and in the process loses what's left of it's integrity and fades into irrelevant history. Ditto NaPo. There are media oultets that take seriously their tacit mandate to serve the people and democracy and there are media outlets that serve political ideologies and power structures. I'll reserve my contempt for the latter and allow the former the room to evolve.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2855','Dana'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2855','Dana','If you spent much time at azerbic (Antonia\'s blog) you\'ll know that she became a favoured target for every slobber covered wacked out Canahoodian wingnut lurking in the oozy, slimy depths of the internets. It gets wearing being personally attacked. And I suspect that what got posted was only a fraction of what got sent - so imagine how much worse the shit was we never read. \r\n\r\nThe Star is certainly looking for a way to insure their survival as the journalistic climate shifts and changes. I hope they take their time and do it well and thrive. On the other hand, I hope the Globe jumps on every bandwagon that passes within earshot and in the process loses what\'s left of it\'s integrity and fades into irrelevant history. Ditto NaPo. \r\n\r\nThere are media oultets that take seriously their tacit mandate to serve the people and democracy and there are media outlets that serve political ideologies and power structures. \r\n\r\nI\'ll reserve my contempt for the latter and allow the former the room to evolve.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If you spent much time at azerbic (Antonia’s blog) you’ll know that she became a favoured target for every slobber covered wacked out Canahoodian wingnut lurking in the oozy, slimy depths of the internets. It gets wearing being personally attacked. And I suspect that what got posted was only a fraction of what got sent - so imagine how much worse the shit was we never read.

The Star is certainly looking for a way to insure their survival as the journalistic climate shifts and changes. I hope they take their time and do it well and thrive. On the other hand, I hope the Globe jumps on every bandwagon that passes within earshot and in the process loses what’s left of it’s integrity and fades into irrelevant history. Ditto NaPo.

There are media oultets that take seriously their tacit mandate to serve the people and democracy and there are media outlets that serve political ideologies and power structures.

I’ll reserve my contempt for the latter and allow the former the room to evolve.

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]]> By: Bailey http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2850 Bailey Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:51:52 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2850 I don't really have a problem with the Globe charging for it's premium coverage. It's no different than paying extra for Tropicana OJ because it's better than some frozen concentrate. But I can see where some people disagree and I understand the argument that they lose out on some influence in the web - much like all of those articles for CanWest Papers that you have to subscribe to. I think there is a difference for paying a premium for columnists/opinions than paying for the Globe's investigation and reporting. As long as their main reporting is free, I don't have a problem with paying a little extra to get their columnists.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2850','Bailey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2850','Bailey','I don\'t really have a problem with the Globe charging for it\'s premium coverage. It\'s no different than paying extra for Tropicana OJ because it\'s better than some frozen concentrate.\r\n\r\nBut I can see where some people disagree and I understand the argument that they lose out on some influence in the web - much like all of those articles for CanWest Papers that you have to subscribe to.\r\n\r\nI think there is a difference for paying a premium for columnists\/opinions than paying for the Globe\'s investigation and reporting. As long as their main reporting is free, I don\'t have a problem with paying a little extra to get their columnists.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don’t really have a problem with the Globe charging for it’s premium coverage. It’s no different than paying extra for Tropicana OJ because it’s better than some frozen concentrate.

But I can see where some people disagree and I understand the argument that they lose out on some influence in the web - much like all of those articles for CanWest Papers that you have to subscribe to.

I think there is a difference for paying a premium for columnists/opinions than paying for the Globe’s investigation and reporting. As long as their main reporting is free, I don’t have a problem with paying a little extra to get their columnists.

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]]> By: saskboy http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2848 saskboy Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:55:01 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2848 I was shocked by that revelation too, but expanding on it didn't fit with my article much.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2848','saskboy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2848','saskboy','I was shocked by that revelation too, but expanding on it didn\'t fit with my article much.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I was shocked by that revelation too, but expanding on it didn’t fit with my article much.
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]]> By: hay http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2846 hay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:00:57 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/03/27/the-toronto-stars-archaic-views-killed-zerbs-blog-not-zerb/#comment-2846 This is the worst news I have heard since Heather Mallick left the Globe. Please tell us where we can send our vociferous objections.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2846','hay'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2846','hay','This is the worst news I have heard since Heather Mallick left the Globe.\r\n\r\nPlease tell us where we can send our vociferous objections.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is the worst news I have heard since Heather Mallick left the Globe.

Please tell us where we can send our vociferous objections.

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