Comments on: UN questions Canada’s new climate change plan. Add them to Bairds attack list. http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:11:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: JimBobby http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3860 JimBobby Tue, 01 May 2007 13:07:12 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3860 Kevin sez - "The thing I don’t get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government..." It's all about doom and gloom for the Alberta oil industry, not the general economy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3860','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3860','JimBobby','Kevin sez - \"The thing I don’t get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government...\"\r\n\r\nIt\'s all about doom and gloom for the Alberta oil industry, not the general economy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Kevin sez - “The thing I don’t get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government…”

It’s all about doom and gloom for the Alberta oil industry, not the general economy.

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]]> By: JimBobby http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3859 JimBobby Tue, 01 May 2007 13:04:12 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3859 Whooee! I was loafin' on the couch Sunday an' flipped over to CPAC. They were runnin' an April 11 speech by Arnold Schwartzenegger at Georgetown U. I ain't a fan of Republicans or of action movie heros but, dang-it-all, Arnold was sure talkin' sense. I'm wonderin' about whether maybe we could take a lesson. California is leadin' the way in the USA, despite the obstructions and disinformation campaign from Washington. Ontariariario could do the same here but it ain't. Ginty's lightbulb plan come out just a little before Baird's but Ginty's sure as hell missin' the boat on alternative energy. We're about to embark on a new era of nuclear power plant building and expansion to the tune of about $50 billion. You'd think guys like Baird an' Harpoon would take a better look at a conservative idol like Arnie. If Arnie pans Baird's so-called plan, I hope PitBullBoy goes on the attack. In a pit bull vs terminator slugfest, I'll bet on the guy who drives a hydrogen-powered Hummer. JB<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3859','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3859','JimBobby','Whooee! I was loafin\' on the couch Sunday an\' flipped over to CPAC. They were runnin\' an April 11 speech by Arnold Schwartzenegger at Georgetown U. I ain\'t a fan of Republicans or of action movie heros but, dang-it-all, Arnold was sure talkin\' sense. \r\n\r\nI\'m wonderin\' about whether maybe we could take a lesson. California is leadin\' the way in the USA, despite the obstructions and disinformation campaign from Washington. Ontariariario could do the same here but it ain\'t. Ginty\'s lightbulb plan come out just a little before Baird\'s but Ginty\'s sure as hell missin\' the boat on alternative energy. We\'re about to embark on a new era of nuclear power plant building and expansion to the tune of about $50 billion.\r\n\r\nYou\'d think guys like Baird an\' Harpoon would take a better look at a conservative idol like Arnie. If Arnie pans Baird\'s so-called plan, I hope PitBullBoy goes on the attack. In a pit bull vs terminator slugfest, I\'ll bet on the guy who drives a hydrogen-powered Hummer.\r\n\r\nJB'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Whooee! I was loafin’ on the couch Sunday an’ flipped over to CPAC. They were runnin’ an April 11 speech by Arnold Schwartzenegger at Georgetown U. I ain’t a fan of Republicans or of action movie heros but, dang-it-all, Arnold was sure talkin’ sense.

I’m wonderin’ about whether maybe we could take a lesson. California is leadin’ the way in the USA, despite the obstructions and disinformation campaign from Washington. Ontariariario could do the same here but it ain’t. Ginty’s lightbulb plan come out just a little before Baird’s but Ginty’s sure as hell missin’ the boat on alternative energy. We’re about to embark on a new era of nuclear power plant building and expansion to the tune of about $50 billion.

You’d think guys like Baird an’ Harpoon would take a better look at a conservative idol like Arnie. If Arnie pans Baird’s so-called plan, I hope PitBullBoy goes on the attack. In a pit bull vs terminator slugfest, I’ll bet on the guy who drives a hydrogen-powered Hummer.

JB

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]]> By: Stephen http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3856 Stephen Tue, 01 May 2007 06:21:09 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3856 I missed the EU, I'll have to google that. Good for the UN.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3856','Stephen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3856','Stephen','I missed the EU, I\'ll have to google that. Good for the UN.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I missed the EU, I’ll have to google that. Good for the UN.
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]]> By: Kevin http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3855 Kevin Tue, 01 May 2007 05:10:41 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3855 The thing I don't get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government -- every year we do nothing, is another year of missed opportunity to deal with something we will inevitably have to deal with. Does the government think that some other country is going to pick up the slack for us? California has been reducing energy consumption for over the 30 years and they're the 6th largest economy in the world. I've put together a quick hit list of facts if you ever have the pleasure of having to argue with the doom and gloom/economic dinosaur crowd: 6th largest economy in the world. $1.6 trillion GDP, representing 17% of the entire US GDP. Canada is the 10th largest at $1.1 trillion GDP 576,000 new jobs in the last 3 years. $576,000 (strangely enough) is the median house price. Since the mid-70’s California has reduced C02 emissions by 30% compared to the rest of the US, while Canada's emissions have increased by 30% since 1990. California is the 3rd lowest per-capita energy consumer in the US. Per capita energy consumption is 33% below the US national average. Average family pays $800 less for energy compared to the rest of the US.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3855','Kevin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3855','Kevin','The thing I don\'t get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government -- every year we do nothing, is another year of missed opportunity to deal with something we will inevitably have to deal with. Does the government think that some other country is going to pick up the slack for us?\r\n\r\nCalifornia has been reducing energy consumption for over the 30 years and they\'re the 6th largest economy in the world. I\'ve put together a quick hit list of facts if you ever have the pleasure of having to argue with the doom and gloom\/economic dinosaur crowd:\r\n\r\n6th largest economy in the world.\r\n$1.6 trillion GDP, representing 17% of the entire US GDP. Canada is the 10th largest at $1.1 trillion GDP\r\n576,000 new jobs in the last 3 years.\r\n$576,000 (strangely enough) is the median house price.\r\n\r\n\r\nSince the mid-70’s California has reduced C02 emissions by 30% compared to the rest of the US, while Canada\'s emissions have increased by 30% since 1990.\r\nCalifornia is the 3rd lowest per-capita energy consumer in the US.\r\nPer capita energy consumption is 33% below the US national average.\r\nAverage family pays $800 less for energy compared to the rest of the US.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The thing I don’t get is all the talk of economic doom and gloom by the government — every year we do nothing, is another year of missed opportunity to deal with something we will inevitably have to deal with. Does the government think that some other country is going to pick up the slack for us?

California has been reducing energy consumption for over the 30 years and they’re the 6th largest economy in the world. I’ve put together a quick hit list of facts if you ever have the pleasure of having to argue with the doom and gloom/economic dinosaur crowd:

6th largest economy in the world.
$1.6 trillion GDP, representing 17% of the entire US GDP. Canada is the 10th largest at $1.1 trillion GDP
576,000 new jobs in the last 3 years.
$576,000 (strangely enough) is the median house price.

Since the mid-70’s California has reduced C02 emissions by 30% compared to the rest of the US, while Canada’s emissions have increased by 30% since 1990.
California is the 3rd lowest per-capita energy consumer in the US.
Per capita energy consumption is 33% below the US national average.
Average family pays $800 less for energy compared to the rest of the US.

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]]> By: knb http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3821 knb Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:40:55 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/04/30/un-questions-canadas-new-climate-change-plan-add-them-to-bairds-attack-list/#comment-3821 I saw this earlier and just shook my head. We are becoming a laughing stock. Baird and his crew just keep blurting out the same lies over and over again, expecting them to stick I guess. It's beyond arrogant to though, to see him tell Suzuki and others, that his plan is "the most aggresive in the world, etc." I really wonder what enables people to that. Surely this charade cannot sustain itself. You cannot have the entire environmental community telling you the plan is bad, while you insist they are all wrong and the plan is spectacular. On your second point though, I'm seriously concerned. Apparently the UN said that by not trying to meet Kyoto targets, Canada is opting out of Kyoto, de facto. I worried that was the plan and there was no desire to renew next year. I think it was May who suggested this possibility.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3821','knb'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3821','knb','I saw this earlier and just shook my head. We are becoming a laughing stock. Baird and his crew just keep blurting out the same lies over and over again, expecting them to stick I guess. It\'s beyond arrogant to though, to see him tell Suzuki and others, that his plan is \"the most aggresive in the world, etc.\" I really wonder what enables people to that.\r\n\r\nSurely this charade cannot sustain itself. You cannot have the entire environmental community telling you the plan is bad, while you insist they are all wrong and the plan is spectacular.\r\n\r\nOn your second point though, I\'m seriously concerned. Apparently the UN said that by not trying to meet Kyoto targets, Canada is opting out of Kyoto, de facto. I worried that was the plan and there was no desire to renew next year. I think it was May who suggested this possibility.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I saw this earlier and just shook my head. We are becoming a laughing stock. Baird and his crew just keep blurting out the same lies over and over again, expecting them to stick I guess. It’s beyond arrogant to though, to see him tell Suzuki and others, that his plan is “the most aggresive in the world, etc.” I really wonder what enables people to that.

Surely this charade cannot sustain itself. You cannot have the entire environmental community telling you the plan is bad, while you insist they are all wrong and the plan is spectacular.

On your second point though, I’m seriously concerned. Apparently the UN said that by not trying to meet Kyoto targets, Canada is opting out of Kyoto, de facto. I worried that was the plan and there was no desire to renew next year. I think it was May who suggested this possibility.

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