Comments on: Via Rail cancels some corridor service over the Day of Protest http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:49:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Slg http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5403 Slg Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:47:12 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5403 I wonder which would be more difficult to tolerate - not being able to catch a train or no water....hmmmm My husband takes VIA to work - he booked the day as a day of his vacation days and has a longer long weekend. Mind you, if it goes on any further my husband will not be amused.  Doesn't Shawn Brant realize if they cripple Canada's economy there will be less money to dole out?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5403','Slg'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5403','Slg','I wonder which would be more difficult to tolerate - not being able to catch a train or no water....hmmmm\r\n\r\nMy husband takes VIA to work - he booked the day as a day of his vacation days and has a longer long weekend.\r\n\r\nMind you, if it goes on any further my husband will not be amused.&nbsp; Doesn&#39;t Shawn Brant realize if they cripple Canada&#39;s economy there will be less money to dole out?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I wonder which would be more difficult to tolerate - not being able to catch a train or no water….hmmmm

My husband takes VIA to work - he booked the day as a day of his vacation days and has a longer long weekend.

Mind you, if it goes on any further my husband will not be amused.  Doesn't Shawn Brant realize if they cripple Canada's economy there will be less money to dole out?

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]]> By: Tania http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5401 Tania Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:42:35 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5401 You have Harper's mentality regarding First Nations and their issues, so I am surprised. And laugh all you want about my statement but it's true.  It actually irritates me because instead of a peaceful protest to raise awareness the lead story will not be the hundreds marching but the railways and highways being blocked and police barracades and that'll be the impression the average Canadian has on First Nations.  Completely ignoring the fact that the Honourable Stephane Dion participated in the March in Ottawa along with other leaders and organizations.  No, we'll have the Shawn Brant fiasco instead.  But like any other group of people, you'll have a fraction of militants who want to do it their way and that justifies attitudes such as yours.  <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5401','Tania'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5401','Tania','You have Harper&#39;s mentality regarding First Nations and their issues, so I am surprised.\r\n\r\nAnd laugh all you want about my statement but it&#39;s true.&nbsp; It actually irritates me because instead of a peaceful protest to raise awareness the lead story will not be the hundreds marching but the railways and highways being blocked and police barracades and that&#39;ll be the impression the average Canadian has on First Nations.&nbsp; Completely ignoring the fact that the Honourable Stephane Dion participated in the March in Ottawa along with other leaders and organizations.&nbsp; No, we&#39;ll have the Shawn Brant fiasco instead.&nbsp; But like any other group of people, you&#39;ll have a fraction of militants who want to do it their way and that justifies attitudes such as yours.&nbsp;&nbsp;'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You have Harper's mentality regarding First Nations and their issues, so I am surprised.

And laugh all you want about my statement but it's true.  It actually irritates me because instead of a peaceful protest to raise awareness the lead story will not be the hundreds marching but the railways and highways being blocked and police barracades and that'll be the impression the average Canadian has on First Nations.  Completely ignoring the fact that the Honourable Stephane Dion participated in the March in Ottawa along with other leaders and organizations.  No, we'll have the Shawn Brant fiasco instead.  But like any other group of people, you'll have a fraction of militants who want to do it their way and that justifies attitudes such as yours.  

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]]> By: DivaRachel http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5398 DivaRachel Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:02:14 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5398 <strong><em>Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations' issues. </em></strong> I did NOT vote for Harper! <strong><< The Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest >></strong> LOL!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5398','DivaRachel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5398','DivaRachel','<strong><em>Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations&#39; issues. <\/em><\/strong>\r\n\r\nI did NOT vote for Harper! \r\n\r\n<strong>&lt;&lt; The Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest &gt;&gt;<\/strong>\r\n\r\nLOL!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations' issues.

I did NOT vote for Harper!

<< The Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest >>

LOL!

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]]> By: Tania http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5393 Tania Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:09:06 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5393 So what do you suggest to bring First Nations concerns to the forefront, Rachel?  Negotiating hasn't worked, diplomacy and talking hasn't worked.  Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations' issues.  With the highest smoking rates of any group, this federal government cut the tobacco strategy to First Nations Health.  What kind of message does that send? The Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest that calls for PEACEFUL protest and informational sessions to raise First Nations' concerns.  It's ignorant to say that thousands of Canadians don't have anything to do with this conflict.  They are involved, whether they like it or not.  The members of governments - at all levels - that they vote for are directly involved in this.  Ignoring the problem hasn't worked for a century and it's come down to one day of "inconvenience".  It is inconvenient for thousands of First Nations to not have access to adequate education, housing, health care, drinking water, etc. So some people may be delayed an hour during a peaceful march.  First Nations have been inconvenienced by inaction for decades. But you go right ahead and play the victim.  It seems to suit you well.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5393','Tania'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5393','Tania','So what do you suggest to bring First Nations concerns to the forefront, Rachel?&nbsp; Negotiating hasn&#39;t worked, diplomacy and talking hasn&#39;t worked.&nbsp; Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations&#39; issues.&nbsp; With the highest smoking rates of any group, this federal government cut the tobacco strategy to First Nations Health.&nbsp; What kind of message does that send?\r\n\r\nThe Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest that calls for PEACEFUL protest and informational sessions to raise First Nations&#39; concerns.&nbsp; \r\n\r\nIt&#39;s ignorant to say that thousands of Canadians don&#39;t have anything to do with this conflict.&nbsp; They are involved, whether they like it or not.&nbsp; The members of governments - at all levels - that they vote for are directly involved in this.&nbsp; Ignoring the problem hasn&#39;t worked for a century and it&#39;s come down to one day of &quot;inconvenience&quot;.&nbsp; \r\n\r\nIt is inconvenient for thousands of First Nations to not have access to adequate education, housing, health care, drinking water, etc.\r\n\r\nSo some people may be delayed an hour during a peaceful march.&nbsp; First Nations have been inconvenienced by inaction for decades.\r\n\r\nBut you go right ahead and play the victim.&nbsp; It seems to suit you well.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> So what do you suggest to bring First Nations concerns to the forefront, Rachel?  Negotiating hasn't worked, diplomacy and talking hasn't worked.  Instead, the Kelowna Accord gets shelved and cuts to programming that affects First Nations' issues.  With the highest smoking rates of any group, this federal government cut the tobacco strategy to First Nations Health.  What kind of message does that send?

The Mohawk protestors are not a part of the main National Day of Protest that calls for PEACEFUL protest and informational sessions to raise First Nations' concerns. 

It's ignorant to say that thousands of Canadians don't have anything to do with this conflict.  They are involved, whether they like it or not.  The members of governments - at all levels - that they vote for are directly involved in this.  Ignoring the problem hasn't worked for a century and it's come down to one day of "inconvenience". 

It is inconvenient for thousands of First Nations to not have access to adequate education, housing, health care, drinking water, etc.

So some people may be delayed an hour during a peaceful march.  First Nations have been inconvenienced by inaction for decades.

But you go right ahead and play the victim.  It seems to suit you well.

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]]> By: DivaRachel http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5392 DivaRachel Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:58:10 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5392 Yeah right! No one is being taken hostage on the first long weekend of the summer where the kids are out of school and families plan on traveling along the most utilized corridor of the entire country. No, we're not being taken hostage at all. Mushroom, do you actually believe your own rhetoric? Come on! Can we agree that this is a huge inconvenience for thousands of canadians who do not have anything to do with this conflict? <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628/BNStory/National/home" title="Thursday, Jun 28 2007 at 10:41 PM EST - Protesters claim to have guns; Via Rail suspends service on Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto corridors in anticipation of aboriginal day of action" rel="nofollow">Mohawk protesters vow to shut down Ontario rail line, highway</a><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628/CommentStory/National/home" title="Leave a comment on this story" rel="nofollow"></a> <!--no_match--> Protesters claim to have guns; Via Rail suspends service on Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto corridors in anticipation of aboriginal day of action 10:41 PM <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628/CommentStory/National/home" title="Leave a comment on this story" rel="nofollow"></a><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5392','DivaRachel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5392','DivaRachel','Yeah right! No one is being taken hostage on the first long weekend of the summer where the kids are out of school and families plan on traveling along the most utilized corridor of the entire country. No, we&#39;re not being taken hostage at all. Mushroom, do you actually believe your own rhetoric? Come on! Can we agree that this is a huge inconvenience for thousands of canadians who do not have anything to do with this conflict?\r\n\r\n <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628\/BNStory\/National\/home\" title=\"Thursday, Jun 28 2007 at 10:41 PM EST - Protesters claim to have guns; Via Rail suspends service on Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto corridors in anticipation of aboriginal day of action\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mohawk protesters vow to shut down Ontario rail line, highway<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628\/CommentStory\/National\/home\" title=\"Leave a comment on this story\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/a> <!--no_match--> Protesters claim to have guns; Via Rail suspends service on Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto corridors in anticipation of aboriginal day of action 10:41 PM <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20070628.wviasuspend0628\/CommentStory\/National\/home\" title=\"Leave a comment on this story\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/a>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Yeah right! No one is being taken hostage on the first long weekend of the summer where the kids are out of school and families plan on traveling along the most utilized corridor of the entire country. No, we're not being taken hostage at all. Mushroom, do you actually believe your own rhetoric? Come on! Can we agree that this is a huge inconvenience for thousands of canadians who do not have anything to do with this conflict?

Mohawk protesters vow to shut down Ontario rail line, highway Protesters claim to have guns; Via Rail suspends service on Montreal-Toronto and Ottawa-Toronto corridors in anticipation of aboriginal day of action 10:41 PM

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]]> By: mushroom http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5383 mushroom Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:53:43 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5383 "I don't like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!" A day of action suggests that peaceful disobedience may be used to protest against a certain grievance. There is a difference between setting a barricade in Deseronto and having someone calling himself Lasagna carrying an AK-47 calling for a neo-Trotskyist revolt against the Canadian government.  In a democracy, there needs to be a recognition of a right to strike to encourage the collective bargaining process.  The collective bargaining process for native rights is broken.  I don't consider a planned peaceful day of action to be something that I am held hostage with. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5383','mushroom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5383','mushroom','&quot;I don&#39;t like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!&quot;\r\nA day of action&nbsp;suggests that&nbsp;peaceful disobedience may be used to protest against a certain grievance.\r\n\r\nThere is a difference between setting a barricade in Deseronto and having someone calling himself Lasagna carrying an AK-47 calling for a neo-Trotskyist revolt against the Canadian government.&nbsp;\r\n\r\nIn a democracy, there needs to be a recognition of a right to strike to encourage the collective bargaining process.&nbsp; The collective bargaining process for native rights is broken.&nbsp;&nbsp;I don&#39;t consider a&nbsp;planned peaceful&nbsp;day of action to be something&nbsp;that I am held hostage with.&nbsp;'); return false;">Quote</a></div> "I don't like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!"
A day of action suggests that peaceful disobedience may be used to protest against a certain grievance.

There is a difference between setting a barricade in Deseronto and having someone calling himself Lasagna carrying an AK-47 calling for a neo-Trotskyist revolt against the Canadian government. 

In a democracy, there needs to be a recognition of a right to strike to encourage the collective bargaining process.  The collective bargaining process for native rights is broken.  I don't consider a planned peaceful day of action to be something that I am held hostage with. 

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]]> By: Aaron Unruh http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5382 Aaron Unruh Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:48:50 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5382 Yawn.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5382','Aaron Unruh'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5382','Aaron Unruh','Yawn.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Yawn.
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]]> By: DivaRachel http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5380 DivaRachel Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:01:01 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5380 Is this a way to solve problems? Block main arteries at the start of vacation season? Hold the general public hostage? Every time the natives aren't happy, this is what we have to look forward to? I don't like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5380','DivaRachel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5380','DivaRachel','Is this a way to solve problems? Block main arteries at the start of vacation season? Hold the general public hostage?\r\n\r\nEvery time the natives aren&#39;t happy, this is what we have to look forward to?\r\n\r\nI don&#39;t like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Is this a way to solve problems? Block main arteries at the start of vacation season? Hold the general public hostage?

Every time the natives aren't happy, this is what we have to look forward to?

I don't like being made a hostage. Not for a strike, not for natives, not for anything!

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]]> By: janfromthebruce http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5379 janfromthebruce Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:50:53 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/06/28/via-rail-cancels-some-corridor-service-over-the-day-of-protest/#comment-5379 Some of those bloggers watched too many reruns of wild west shows and want to play cowboys and Indians, 21st century style. They propoganded past was just mythology. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5379','janfromthebruce'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5379','janfromthebruce','Some of those bloggers watched too many reruns of wild west shows and want to play cowboys and Indians, 21st century style.&nbsp;They&nbsp;propoganded past was just mythology.&nbsp;'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Some of those bloggers watched too many reruns of wild west shows and want to play cowboys and Indians, 21st century style. They propoganded past was just mythology. 
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