Comments on: Meanwhile, in the current FPTP system… http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:59:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Aaron Unruh http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8852 Aaron Unruh Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:50:33 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8852 [quote comment=""]Harris would never ever win here again. He’d get creamed.[/quote] Weren't you guys saying the same thing before his first <em>and</em> his second majority governments?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8852','Aaron Unruh'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8852','Aaron Unruh','&#91;quote comment=&quot;&quot;&#93;Harris would never ever win here again. He&rsquo;d get creamed.&#91;\/quote&#93;\r\n\r\nWeren\'t you guys saying the same thing before his first <em>and<\/em> his second majority governments?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [quote comment=""]Harris would never ever win here again. He’d get creamed.[/quote]

Weren’t you guys saying the same thing before his first and his second majority governments?

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]]> By: Virginnia http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8836 Virginnia Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:27:26 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8836 I went to the "candidates" debate on health and disability.  The Green won it hands down with the people there although it was only 2 candidates that showed up. It was just so disappointing. To have the selfish inconsiderate McGuinty in again is so tragic.   No hope for the poor in this election; it just grinds on.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8836','Virginnia'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8836','Virginnia','I went to the &quot;candidates&quot; debate on health and disability.&nbsp; The Green won it hands down with the people there although it was only 2 candidates that showed up. It was just so disappointing. To have the selfish inconsiderate McGuinty in again is so tragic.&nbsp;&nbsp; No hope for the poor in this election; it just grinds on.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I went to the "candidates" debate on health and disability.  The Green won it hands down with the people there although it was only 2 candidates that showed up. It was just so disappointing. To have the selfish inconsiderate McGuinty in again is so tragic.   No hope for the poor in this election; it just grinds on.
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]]> By: Lord Kitchener’s Own http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8826 Lord Kitchener’s Own Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:42:11 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8826 This is pretty astounding, isn't it! "A measure of the Conservative weakness is that <strong>the party now ranks last as the second choice of voters, behind even the Green party</strong>. The NDP has the greatest second-choice support at 26 per cent, but only 15 per cent name the Tories as their second choice." Wow.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8826','Lord Kitchener’s Own'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8826','Lord Kitchener’s Own','This is pretty astounding, isn\'t it!\r\n\r\n&quot;A measure of the Conservative weakness is that <strong>the party now ranks last as the second choice of voters, behind even the Green party<\/strong>. The NDP has the greatest second-choice support at 26 per cent, but only 15 per cent name the Tories as their second choice.&quot;\r\n\r\nWow.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is pretty astounding, isn’t it!

"A measure of the Conservative weakness is that the party now ranks last as the second choice of voters, behind even the Green party. The NDP has the greatest second-choice support at 26 per cent, but only 15 per cent name the Tories as their second choice."

Wow.

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]]> By: Lord Kitchener’s Own http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8825 Lord Kitchener’s Own Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:25:32 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8825 At this rate, if these kind of numbers hold up, I'm not sure Tory can win his own riding. As a resident of Don Valley East, I always thought it was stupid for Tory to go up against a popular female cabinet minister in Don Valley West.  However, I also thought he'd probably win, just on the "maybe our MPP will be Premier" factor.  I think the voters of Don Valley West would rather have a cabinet minister than a Leader of the Opposition though, and Kathleen Wynne is quite popular!  Democratic space has the riding going to Tory (barely) in their predictions, BUT, they predict Tory taking <strong>42-45%</strong> of the vote, and Liberal Kathleen Wynne taking <strong>42-46%</strong> of the vote!!!  Clearly, the "Tory win" prediction is based on a "leader/potential Premier" factor, which I agree is normally in play.  Not so much with the numbers noted above (anything below 35% provincially ought to make Tory nervous about winning his own riding, IMHO). A week is an eternity in politics of course, but Mr. Tory HAS to turn this around.  If not, I predict not only will his party lose, but he'll lose personally as well.  At which point his leadership may come into serious question.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8825','Lord Kitchener’s Own'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8825','Lord Kitchener’s Own','At this rate, if these kind of numbers hold up, I\'m not sure Tory can win his own riding.\r\n\r\nAs a resident of Don Valley East, I always thought it was stupid for Tory to go up against a popular female cabinet minister in Don Valley West.&nbsp; However, I also thought he\'d probably win, just on the &quot;maybe our MPP will be Premier&quot; factor.&nbsp; I think the voters of Don Valley West would rather have a cabinet minister than a Leader of the Opposition though, and Kathleen Wynne is quite popular!&nbsp; \r\n\r\nDemocratic space has the riding going to Tory (barely) in their predictions, BUT, they predict Tory taking <strong>42-45%<\/strong> of the vote, and Liberal Kathleen Wynne taking <strong>42-46%<\/strong> of the vote!!!&nbsp; Clearly, the &quot;Tory win&quot; prediction is based on a &quot;leader\/potential Premier&quot; factor, which I agree is normally in play.&nbsp; Not so much with the numbers noted above (anything below 35% provincially ought to make Tory nervous about winning his own riding, IMHO).\r\n\r\nA week is an eternity in politics of course, but Mr. Tory HAS to turn this around.&nbsp; If not, I predict not only will his party lose, but he\'ll lose personally as well.&nbsp; At which point his leadership may come into serious question.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> At this rate, if these kind of numbers hold up, I’m not sure Tory can win his own riding.

As a resident of Don Valley East, I always thought it was stupid for Tory to go up against a popular female cabinet minister in Don Valley West.  However, I also thought he’d probably win, just on the "maybe our MPP will be Premier" factor.  I think the voters of Don Valley West would rather have a cabinet minister than a Leader of the Opposition though, and Kathleen Wynne is quite popular! 

Democratic space has the riding going to Tory (barely) in their predictions, BUT, they predict Tory taking 42-45% of the vote, and Liberal Kathleen Wynne taking 42-46% of the vote!!!  Clearly, the "Tory win" prediction is based on a "leader/potential Premier" factor, which I agree is normally in play.  Not so much with the numbers noted above (anything below 35% provincially ought to make Tory nervous about winning his own riding, IMHO).

A week is an eternity in politics of course, but Mr. Tory HAS to turn this around.  If not, I predict not only will his party lose, but he’ll lose personally as well.  At which point his leadership may come into serious question.

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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8811 Scott Tribe Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:45:59 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8811 Harris would never ever win here again. He'd get creamed.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8811','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8811','Scott Tribe','Harris would never ever win here again. He\'d get creamed.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Harris would never ever win here again. He’d get creamed.
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]]> By: Aaron Unruh http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8810 Aaron Unruh Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:31:27 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2007/09/28/meanwhile-in-the-current-fptp-system/#comment-8810 In this case, Tory is toast. The Tories will have to find a leader who actually knows how to win back-to-back majorities. Perhaps Harris would consider returning to kick some Liberal butt all over again?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8810','Aaron Unruh'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8810','Aaron Unruh','In this case, Tory is toast. The Tories will have to find a leader who actually knows how to win back-to-back majorities. Perhaps Harris would consider returning to kick some Liberal butt all over again?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> In this case, Tory is toast. The Tories will have to find a leader who actually knows how to win back-to-back majorities. Perhaps Harris would consider returning to kick some Liberal butt all over again?
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