Comments on: Democrats for Mitt working? http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:04:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12229 Scott Tribe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:20:50 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12229 What would you like beyond board chatter, Steve? Obviously, I'm going on some commentary I've seen, and the unknown quantity are those who read the site but don't leave commentary.. As I said, we'll see once the primary is over and the victor is declared -whoever that may be - and the Dem crossovers mentioned.. and then we'll see how much of an impact if any the activist blogs had in getting this tactic to work. Until then, you and I will be going in circles on this... and as much as I like big commentary threads... I think we need to draw up a truce on arguing if this is having any effect or not :)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12229','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12229','Scott Tribe','What would you like beyond board chatter, Steve? Obviously, I\'m going on some commentary I\'ve seen, and the unknown quantity are those who read the site but don\'t leave commentary.. As I said, we\'ll see once the primary is over and the victor is declared -whoever that may be - and the Dem crossovers mentioned.. and then we\'ll see how much of an impact if any the activist blogs had in getting this tactic to work. Until then, you and I will be going in circles on this... and as much as I like big commentary threads... I think we need to draw up a truce on arguing if this is having any effect or not :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What would you like beyond board chatter, Steve? Obviously, I’m going on some commentary I’ve seen, and the unknown quantity are those who read the site but don’t leave commentary.. As I said, we’ll see once the primary is over and the victor is declared -whoever that may be - and the Dem crossovers mentioned.. and then we’ll see how much of an impact if any the activist blogs had in getting this tactic to work. Until then, you and I will be going in circles on this… and as much as I like big commentary threads… I think we need to draw up a truce on arguing if this is having any effect or not :)
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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12228 Steve V Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:06:38 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12228 Scott, what Firedoglake says might be relevant if you could provide something substantive to show real influence in Michigan, something that demonstrates the ability of the idea to move from the keyboard to the street.  I've seen nothing, and I'm open to looking. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12228','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12228','Steve V','Scott, what Firedoglake says might be relevant if you could provide something substantive to show real influence in Michigan, something that demonstrates the ability of the idea to move from the keyboard to the street.  I\'ve seen nothing, and I\'m open to looking. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Scott, what Firedoglake says might be relevant if you could provide something substantive to show real influence in Michigan, something that demonstrates the ability of the idea to move from the keyboard to the street.  I’ve seen nothing, and I’m open to looking. 
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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12227 Scott Tribe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:58:25 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12227 What the campaigns say and what the netroots do are sometimes two totally different things.  As I said, we'll see.. because I've seen strong support for this idea at Firedoglake and Eschaton amongst the commenters, and there are more who support it from Mi at Kos then I think you're willing to give credit for... and the combined blogs membership and readership number in the thousands. Not all from Michigan of course.. but as I said.. even a small # of crossovers could turn the tide.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12227','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12227','Scott Tribe','What the campaigns say and what the netroots do are sometimes two totally different things.  As I said, we\'ll see.. because I\'ve seen strong support for this idea at Firedoglake and Eschaton amongst the commenters, and there are more who support it from Mi at Kos then I think you\'re willing to give credit for... and the combined blogs membership and readership number in the thousands. Not all from Michigan of course.. but as I said.. even a small # of crossovers could turn the tide.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What the campaigns say and what the netroots do are sometimes two totally different things.  As I said, we’ll see.. because I’ve seen strong support for this idea at Firedoglake and Eschaton amongst the commenters, and there are more who support it from Mi at Kos then I think you’re willing to give credit for… and the combined blogs membership and readership number in the thousands. Not all from Michigan of course.. but as I said.. even a small # of crossovers could turn the tide.
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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12226 Steve V Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:50:38 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12226 But, these are ALL the campaigns, asking their grassroots supporters to vote Hillary or uncommitted, that is the debate.  The story today was the Dem Governor weighing in, telling people to show up and vote "uncommitted".  I didn't hear anybody in Michigan mention the Markos scenario.  I think you might be the elitist here, assuming some guy in San Francisco can tell grassroots Dems in Michigan what to do.  Think about it ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12226','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12226','Steve V','But, these are ALL the campaigns, asking their grassroots supporters to vote Hillary or uncommitted, that is the debate.  The story today was the Dem Governor weighing in, telling people to show up and vote &quot;uncommitted&quot;.  I didn\'t hear anybody in Michigan mention the Markos scenario.  I think you might be the elitist here, assuming some guy in San Francisco can tell grassroots Dems in Michigan what to do.  Think about it ;)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> But, these are ALL the campaigns, asking their grassroots supporters to vote Hillary or uncommitted, that is the debate.  The story today was the Dem Governor weighing in, telling people to show up and vote "uncommitted".  I didn’t hear anybody in Michigan mention the Markos scenario.  I think you might be the elitist here, assuming some guy in San Francisco can tell grassroots Dems in Michigan what to do.  Think about it ;)
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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12225 Scott Tribe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:48:50 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12225 Steve: I guess we'll find out after the primary how many Dems crossed over to vote.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12225','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12225','Scott Tribe','Steve: I guess we\'ll find out after the primary how many Dems crossed over to vote.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Steve: I guess we’ll find out after the primary how many Dems crossed over to vote.
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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12224 Steve V Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:48:04 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12224 Sorry :)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12224','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12224','Steve V','Sorry :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sorry :)
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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12223 Scott Tribe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:47:47 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12223 I'm sure the establishment Dems would say such a thing. They'd never get caught openly advocating Dems to vote in the other primary. Thats for the blogger netroots to do. No shocker there.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12223','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12223','Scott Tribe','I\'m sure the establishment Dems would say such a thing. They\'d never get caught openly advocating Dems to vote in the other primary. Thats for the blogger netroots to do. No shocker there.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m sure the establishment Dems would say such a thing. They’d never get caught openly advocating Dems to vote in the other primary. Thats for the blogger netroots to do. No shocker there.
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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12222 Steve V Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:47:27 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12222 Scott, I'm giving you numbers (from respected papers, not online publications), you are giving me hype?  Can you provide anything actually coming from Michigan to support that this thing is taking off, those facebook numbers are laughable.  Of course everyone picked up on it, it was provocative, but nothing empirical to suggest anything more than a passing fancy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12222','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12222','Steve V','Scott, I\'m giving you numbers (from respected papers, not online publications), you are giving me hype?  Can you provide anything actually coming from Michigan to support that this thing is taking off, those facebook numbers are laughable.  Of course everyone picked up on it, it was provocative, but nothing empirical to suggest anything more than a passing fancy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Scott, I’m giving you numbers (from respected papers, not online publications), you are giving me hype?  Can you provide anything actually coming from Michigan to support that this thing is taking off, those facebook numbers are laughable.  Of course everyone picked up on it, it was provocative, but nothing empirical to suggest anything more than a passing fancy.
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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12221 Scott Tribe Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:46:49 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12221 Heh.. you're another one that needs to learn to use the text editor  for links ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12221','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12221','Scott Tribe','Heh.. you\'re another one that needs to learn to use the text editor  for links ;)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Heh.. you’re another one that needs to learn to use the text editor  for links ;)
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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12220 Steve V Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:43:01 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/01/12/democrats-for-mitt-working/#comment-12220 Scott, just to add, the real movement is for people to vote <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080110/NEWS06/801100363" rel="nofollow">uncommitted</a>, so the delegates are still at large in a convention. That's the push from the establishment, Obama's people, Edwards, Michigan Dems. And, if you actually read the comment sections in Markos posts, you will notice Michigan Dems are the most vocal against.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12220','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12220','Steve V','Scott, just to add, the real movement is for people to vote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freep.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20080110\/NEWS06\/801100363\" rel=\"nofollow\">uncommitted<\/a>, so the delegates are still at large in a convention. That\'s the push from the establishment, Obama\'s people, Edwards, Michigan Dems. And, if you actually read the comment sections in Markos posts, you will notice Michigan Dems are the most vocal against.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Scott, just to add, the real movement is for people to vote uncommitted, so the delegates are still at large in a convention. That’s the push from the establishment, Obama’s people, Edwards, Michigan Dems. And, if you actually read the comment sections in Markos posts, you will notice Michigan Dems are the most vocal against.
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