Comments on: Our soldiers are dying in Afghanistan for this? http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:42:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: opit http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-13035 opit Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:30:11 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-13035 Canadians shouldn't be dying there. Neither should other NATO troops. They shouldn't be there either. Do you remember any moment in time when the House approved  a mission to Afghanistan and debated same ? I don't either. Jack Layton is getting tarred with "Not Supporting the Troops". He should loudly bray selecting  futile target practice as a new sport was a damned odd way of doing that deed !<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13035','opit'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13035','opit','Canadians shouldn\'t be dying there. Neither should other NATO troops. They shouldn\'t be there either.\r\nDo you remember any moment in time when the House approved  a mission to Afghanistan and debated same ?\r\nI don\'t either. Jack Layton is getting tarred with &quot;Not Supporting the Troops&quot;. He should loudly bray selecting  futile target practice as a new sport was a damned odd way of doing that deed !'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Canadians shouldn’t be dying there. Neither should other NATO troops. They shouldn’t be there either.
Do you remember any moment in time when the House approved  a mission to Afghanistan and debated same ?
I don’t either. Jack Layton is getting tarred with "Not Supporting the Troops". He should loudly bray selecting  futile target practice as a new sport was a damned odd way of doing that deed !
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]]> By: Martin Rayner http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12953 Martin Rayner Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:39:59 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12953 "irregardless"...? A smack of the dead trout to Mushroom.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12953','Martin Rayner'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12953','Martin Rayner','&quot;irregardless&quot;...? A smack of the dead trout to Mushroom.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> "irregardless"…? A smack of the dead trout to Mushroom.
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]]> By: Militantliberal http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12935 Militantliberal Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:33:51 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12935 Journalists being sentenced to death in Afghanistan? How does that happen? I thought the glorious western troops had brought freedom to Kabul and all the children were in schools including the girls. Democracy was flourishing so that the streets resembled Athens of old and the return of the Taliban was the only thing that could spoil this new Utopian Kabul. If they start doing the executions in soccer stadiums they will be exactly as bad as the Taliban.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12935','Militantliberal'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12935','Militantliberal','Journalists being sentenced to death in Afghanistan? How does that happen? I thought the glorious western troops had brought freedom to Kabul and all the children were in schools including the girls. Democracy was flourishing so that the streets resembled Athens of old and the return of the Taliban was the only thing that could spoil this new Utopian Kabul. If they start doing the executions in soccer stadiums they will be exactly as bad as the Taliban.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Journalists being sentenced to death in Afghanistan? How does that happen? I thought the glorious western troops had brought freedom to Kabul and all the children were in schools including the girls. Democracy was flourishing so that the streets resembled Athens of old and the return of the Taliban was the only thing that could spoil this new Utopian Kabul. If they start doing the executions in soccer stadiums they will be exactly as bad as the Taliban.
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]]> By: mushroom http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12932 mushroom Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:28:40 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12932 "NATO countries need to step up to the plate, and that’s irregardless of Manley and Harper’s “threat” to leave."   Why should the peace loving Germans and Norwegians step up to the plate and die for Canadians in Kandahar?  Not even a supporter of France in its conduct of foreign policy, why should Sarkozy offer Harper and Manley a gesture in these killing fields? It is not a question of Grit hawks or doves.  We need to change our attitude towards military roles.  Bosnia under Lewis Mackenzie was one in which Canadians punch much less powerful than the media and/or government made out to be.  All this leads to Kandahar.  We need to move from peacekeeping to nation building with a modernized army, sounds the clarion cry.  The results there speak for themselves. The NATO meeting in Vilnius in the next several days will need much attention to.  Harper is going to strong arm the allies to supply the troops.  My advice to Dion and Rae (he needs to stop posturing, IMO) is to give advance notice for the other countries to politely decline.  At the same time, they should pay extra attention to the alternative proposals put forth from the other European countries so they can put forth an alternative to the Manley report recommendations for the party rank and file.  <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12932','mushroom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12932','mushroom','&quot;NATO countries need to step up to the plate, and thatâs irregardless of Manley and Harperâs âthreatâ to leave.&quot;\r\n \r\nWhy should the peace loving Germans and Norwegians step up to the plate and die for Canadians in Kandahar?  Not even a supporter of France in its conduct of foreign policy, why should Sarkozy offer Harper and Manley a gesture in these killing fields?\r\n\r\nIt is not a question of Grit hawks or doves.  We need to change our attitude towards military roles.  Bosnia under Lewis Mackenzie was one in which Canadians punch much less powerful than the media and\/or government made out to be.  All this leads to Kandahar.  We need to move from peacekeeping to nation building with a modernized army, sounds the clarion cry.  The results there speak for themselves.\r\n\r\nThe NATO meeting in Vilnius in the next several days will need much attention to.  Harper is going to strong arm the allies to supply the troops.  My advice to Dion and Rae (he needs to stop posturing, IMO) is to give advance notice for the other countries to politely decline.  At the same time, they should pay extra attention to the alternative proposals put forth from the other European countries so they can put forth an alternative to the Manley report recommendations for the party rank and file.  '); return false;">Quote</a></div> "NATO countries need to step up to the plate, and that’s irregardless of Manley and Harper’s “threat” to leave."
 
Why should the peace loving Germans and Norwegians step up to the plate and die for Canadians in Kandahar?  Not even a supporter of France in its conduct of foreign policy, why should Sarkozy offer Harper and Manley a gesture in these killing fields?

It is not a question of Grit hawks or doves.  We need to change our attitude towards military roles.  Bosnia under Lewis Mackenzie was one in which Canadians punch much less powerful than the media and/or government made out to be.  All this leads to Kandahar.  We need to move from peacekeeping to nation building with a modernized army, sounds the clarion cry.  The results there speak for themselves.

The NATO meeting in Vilnius in the next several days will need much attention to.  Harper is going to strong arm the allies to supply the troops.  My advice to Dion and Rae (he needs to stop posturing, IMO) is to give advance notice for the other countries to politely decline.  At the same time, they should pay extra attention to the alternative proposals put forth from the other European countries so they can put forth an alternative to the Manley report recommendations for the party rank and file.  

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]]> By: Mound of Sound http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12929 Mound of Sound Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:07:39 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/01/our-soldiers-are-dying-in-afghanistan-for-this/#comment-12929 Hillier really grates on me.   His notion of "we have to keep sending our kids to die there lest we dishonour those who've already been killed" is disgraceful.    I think it's his honour he's concerned with, not theirs. It's finally becoming clear that it all went wrong when, after driving our the Taliban, we replaced one gang of mujahadeen with another gang of mujahadeen.  That's why we've got the all too predictable result of a country controlled by mujads - a corrupt government, a feudal society and a criminal economy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12929','Mound of Sound'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12929','Mound of Sound','Hillier really grates on me.   His notion of &quot;we have to keep sending our kids to die there lest we dishonour those who\'ve already been killed&quot; is disgraceful.    I think it\'s his honour he\'s concerned with, not theirs.\r\n\r\nIt\'s finally becoming clear that it all went wrong when, after driving our the Taliban, we replaced one gang of mujahadeen with another gang of mujahadeen.  That\'s why we\'ve got the all too predictable result of a country controlled by mujads - a corrupt government, a feudal society and a criminal economy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hillier really grates on me.   His notion of "we have to keep sending our kids to die there lest we dishonour those who’ve already been killed" is disgraceful.    I think it’s his honour he’s concerned with, not theirs.

It’s finally becoming clear that it all went wrong when, after driving our the Taliban, we replaced one gang of mujahadeen with another gang of mujahadeen.  That’s why we’ve got the all too predictable result of a country controlled by mujads - a corrupt government, a feudal society and a criminal economy.

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