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		<title>By: Scott Tribe</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/09/journamalism-part-2/#comment-13306</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pogge:

1) thanks for letting me borrow the term

2) Using the handy-dandy editor that you see directly above the text box will allow you to enter things in &lt;em&gt;italics&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;bold&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;u&gt;underline&lt;/u&gt;, or &lt;strike&gt;strikethru&lt;/strike&gt;, or allow you to&lt;a href="http://www.pogge.ca/archives/001793.shtml" title="Journalmalism" rel="nofollow"&gt; link to good articles&lt;/a&gt; , merely by highlighting said text and clicking the button.. simple as 1-2-3 ;)

3) I've edited your piece from my end to reflect your &lt;em&gt;italics&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13306','Scott Tribe'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13306','Scott Tribe','Pogge:\r\n\r\n1) thanks for letting me borrow the term\r\n\r\n2) Using the handy-dandy editor that you see directly above the text box will allow you to enter things in &#60;em&#62;italics&#60;\/em&#62; or &#60;strong&#62;bold&#60;\/strong&#62; or &#60;u&#62;underline&#60;\/u&#62;, or &#60;strike&#62;strikethru&#60;\/strike&#62;, or allow you to&#60;a href=\&#34;http:\/\/www.pogge.ca\/archives\/001793.shtml\&#34; title=\&#34;Journalmalism\&#34; rel=\&#34;nofollow\&#34;&#62; link to good articles&#60;\/a&#62; , merely by highlighting said text and clicking the button.. simple as 1-2-3 ;)\r\n\r\n3) I\'ve edited your piece from my end to reflect your &#60;em&#62;italics&#60;\/em&#62;.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pogge:</p>
<p>1) thanks for letting me borrow the term</p>
<p>2) Using the handy-dandy editor that you see directly above the text box will allow you to enter things in <em>italics</em> or <strong>bold</strong> or <u>underline</u>, or <strike>strikethru</strike>, or allow you to<a href="http://www.pogge.ca/archives/001793.shtml" title="Journalmalism" rel="nofollow"> link to good articles</a> , merely by highlighting said text and clicking the button.. simple as 1-2-3 <img src='http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>3) I&#8217;ve edited your piece from my end to reflect your <em>italics</em>.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13306','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13306','Scott Tribe','Pogge:\r\n\r\n1) thanks for letting me borrow the term\r\n\r\n2) Using the handy-dandy editor that you see directly above the text box will allow you to enter things in &lt;em&gt;italics&lt;\/em&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;bold&lt;\/strong&gt; or &lt;u&gt;underline&lt;\/u&gt;, or &lt;strike&gt;strikethru&lt;\/strike&gt;, or allow you to&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.pogge.ca\/archives\/001793.shtml\&quot; title=\&quot;Journalmalism\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt; link to good articles&lt;\/a&gt; , merely by highlighting said text and clicking the button.. simple as 1-2-3 ;)\r\n\r\n3) I\'ve edited your piece from my end to reflect your &lt;em&gt;italics&lt;\/em&gt;.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ottlib</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/09/journamalism-part-2/#comment-13305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottlib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Mr. Travers isnâ€™t the only one to do this Iâ€™m sure, but I wonder at times if these folks even read their own old columns to see how hypocritical and self-serving they sound&lt;/em&gt;.

Short answer is no.  Columnists are not held accountable for what they said last year, last month or yesterday.  Most people will not remember what Mr. Travers said so he can safely say whatever he likes regardless of whether it is hypocritical or not. That is why politicians should make a point of ignoring their advice.  At the time of the Throne Speech and the mini-budget in November, Scott Reid wrote a piece in The TO Star with the headline, &#34;The Media is the enemy&#34;. In the actual piece he stated not because they are biased but because they can give advice to politicians knowing full well that they will not have to live with the consequences.  So, he stated, ignore them.  He ended his piece by stating (and I am paraphrasing from memory):

&lt;blockquote&gt; The advice of media pundits can be had for the price of a newspaper and it is worth about the same amount.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13305','Ottlib'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13305','Ottlib','&#60;em&#62;Mr. Travers isn&#226;€™t the only one to do this I&#226;€™m sure, but I wonder at times if these folks even read their own old columns to see how hypocritical and self-serving they sound&#60;\/em&#62;.\r\n\r\nShort answer is no.  Columnists are not held accountable for what they said last year, last month or yesterday.  Most people will not remember what Mr. Travers said so he can safely say whatever he likes regardless of whether it is hypocritical or not. That is why politicians should make a point of ignoring their advice.  At the time of the Throne Speech and the mini-budget in November, Scott Reid wrote a piece in The TO Star with the headline, &#38;quot;The Media is the enemy&#38;quot;. In the actual piece he stated not because they are biased but because they can give advice to politicians knowing full well that they will not have to live with the consequences.  So, he stated, ignore them.  He ended his piece by stating (and I am paraphrasing from memory):\r\n\r\n&#60;blockquote&#62; The advice of media pundits can be had for the price of a newspaper and it is worth about the same amount.&#60;\/blockquote&#62;\r\n\r\n'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Mr. Travers isnâ€™t the only one to do this Iâ€™m sure, but I wonder at times if these folks even read their own old columns to see how hypocritical and self-serving they sound</em>.</p>
<p>Short answer is no.  Columnists are not held accountable for what they said last year, last month or yesterday.  Most people will not remember what Mr. Travers said so he can safely say whatever he likes regardless of whether it is hypocritical or not. That is why politicians should make a point of ignoring their advice.  At the time of the Throne Speech and the mini-budget in November, Scott Reid wrote a piece in The TO Star with the headline, &quot;The Media is the enemy&quot;. In the actual piece he stated not because they are biased but because they can give advice to politicians knowing full well that they will not have to live with the consequences.  So, he stated, ignore them.  He ended his piece by stating (and I am paraphrasing from memory):</p>
<blockquote><p> The advice of media pundits can be had for the price of a newspaper and it is worth about the same amount.</p></blockquote>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13305','Ottlib'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13305','Ottlib','&lt;em&gt;Mr. Travers isn&acirc;€™t the only one to do this I&acirc;€™m sure, but I wonder at times if these folks even read their own old columns to see how hypocritical and self-serving they sound&lt;\/em&gt;.\r\n\r\nShort answer is no.  Columnists are not held accountable for what they said last year, last month or yesterday.  Most people will not remember what Mr. Travers said so he can safely say whatever he likes regardless of whether it is hypocritical or not. That is why politicians should make a point of ignoring their advice.  At the time of the Throne Speech and the mini-budget in November, Scott Reid wrote a piece in The TO Star with the headline, &amp;quot;The Media is the enemy&amp;quot;. In the actual piece he stated not because they are biased but because they can give advice to politicians knowing full well that they will not have to live with the consequences.  So, he stated, ignore them.  He ended his piece by stating (and I am paraphrasing from memory):\r\n\r\n&lt;blockquote&gt; The advice of media pundits can be had for the price of a newspaper and it is worth about the same amount.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\n'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: pogge</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/09/journamalism-part-2/#comment-13304</link>
		<dc:creator>pogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No direct HTML, I see. Please assume the bit between the &#60;i&#62; tags was quoted from the original post. 'Cos it was.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13304','pogge'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13304','pogge','No direct HTML, I see. Please assume the bit between the &#38;lt;i&#38;gt; tags was quoted from the original post. \'Cos it was.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No direct HTML, I see. Please assume the bit between the &lt;i&gt; tags was quoted from the original post. &#8216;Cos it was.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13304','pogge'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13304','pogge','No direct HTML, I see. Please assume the bit between the &amp;lt;i&amp;gt; tags was quoted from the original post. \'Cos it was.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: pogge</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/02/09/journamalism-part-2/#comment-13303</link>
		<dc:creator>pogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Iâ€™m going to borrow Poggeâ€™s phrase here&lt;/em&gt;

By all means. I stole it from Atrios.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13303','pogge'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13303','pogge','&#60;em&#62;I&#226;€™m going to borrow Pogge&#226;€™s phrase here&#60;\/em&#62;\r\n\r\nBy all means. I stole it from Atrios.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Iâ€™m going to borrow Poggeâ€™s phrase here</em></p>
<p>By all means. I stole it from Atrios.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13303','pogge'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13303','pogge','&lt;em&gt;I&acirc;€™m going to borrow Pogge&acirc;€™s phrase here&lt;\/em&gt;\r\n\r\nBy all means. I stole it from Atrios.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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