Comments on: Interesting facts about Elections Canada http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:01:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: wilson http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14781 wilson Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:01:58 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14781 '...Strange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley’s son’s job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe...' EC could not look into the Liberal candidates and the Liberal Party, that took Adscam cash to run their election, due to a time limit technicality, of 18 months. PMSH has raised that to 10 years where criminal wrong doing can be investigated by EC. But that doesn't stop the RCMP. The Federal Accountability Act, for the first time, includes Elections Canada under access to information, which coincidentlywas at the same time that Kingsley quit. Interesting times ahead.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14781','wilson'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14781','wilson','\'...Strange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley’s son’s job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe...\'\r\n\r\nEC could not look into the Liberal candidates and the Liberal Party, that took Adscam cash to run their election, due to a time limit technicality, of 18 months. \r\nPMSH has raised that to 10 years where criminal wrong doing can be investigated by EC.\r\n\r\nBut that doesn\'t stop the RCMP.\r\n\r\nThe Federal Accountability Act, for the first time, includes Elections Canada under access to information, which coincidentlywas at the same time that Kingsley quit. Interesting times ahead.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> ‘…Strange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley’s son’s job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe…’

EC could not look into the Liberal candidates and the Liberal Party, that took Adscam cash to run their election, due to a time limit technicality, of 18 months.
PMSH has raised that to 10 years where criminal wrong doing can be investigated by EC.

But that doesn’t stop the RCMP.

The Federal Accountability Act, for the first time, includes Elections Canada under access to information, which coincidentlywas at the same time that Kingsley quit. Interesting times ahead.

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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14780 Scott Tribe Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:57:42 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14780 Actually, Colin, that is not correct. If you want to see why it was likely that EC went to a judge in Toronto, read <b><a>Fuddle-Duddle's post</a></b> about that. THAT is much more likely then your theory, which even Greg Weston of the Sun chain dismisses. As for the rest - nothing but more smears trying to impugn an internationally respected body like Elections Canada. The fact is, there is only one party under investigation right now for Election laws being broken - and that is the party you support Colin.. and it's not to do with picking on them - its to do with the fact they broke the law and are now mad that they got caught.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14780','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14780','Scott Tribe','Actually, Colin, that is not correct. If you want to see why it was likely that EC went to a judge in Toronto, read <b><a>Fuddle-Duddle\'s post<\/a><\/b> about that. THAT is much more likely then your theory, which even Greg Weston of the Sun chain dismisses.\r\n\r\nAs for the rest - nothing but more smears trying to impugn an internationally respected body like Elections Canada. The fact is, there is only one party under investigation right now for Election laws being broken - and that is the party you support Colin.. and it\'s not to do with picking on them - its to do with the fact they broke the law and are now mad that they got caught.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Actually, Colin, that is not correct. If you want to see why it was likely that EC went to a judge in Toronto, read Fuddle-Duddle’s post about that. THAT is much more likely then your theory, which even Greg Weston of the Sun chain dismisses.

As for the rest - nothing but more smears trying to impugn an internationally respected body like Elections Canada. The fact is, there is only one party under investigation right now for Election laws being broken - and that is the party you support Colin.. and it’s not to do with picking on them - its to do with the fact they broke the law and are now mad that they got caught.

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]]> By: Colin http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14779 Colin Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:46:14 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14779 Actually this whole thing proves Harper's claim about govt agencies acting as a check on his power. Elections Canada shopped around and found a liberal judge in Toronto and then broke their own rules by conducting an illegal raid to allegedly obtain documents that the Conservatives were going to use to prove their claim against EC in court! The Conservatives would not destroy documents they would need to prove their case. In fact the conservatives arent hiding anything because they dont feel they have done anything wrong. If Liberals like Ralph Goodale want to call into question the validity of the last election he should recall the infamous sponsorship years when his party financed whole Quebec campaigns with money stolen from the taxpayers of Canada. Strange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley's son's job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14779','Colin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14779','Colin','Actually this whole thing proves Harper\'s claim about govt agencies acting as a check on his power.\r\n\r\nElections Canada shopped around and found a liberal judge in Toronto and then broke their own rules by conducting an illegal raid to allegedly obtain documents that the Conservatives were going to use to prove their claim against EC in court!\r\n\r\nThe Conservatives would not destroy documents they would need to prove their case. In fact the conservatives arent hiding anything because they dont feel they have done anything wrong.\r\n\r\nIf Liberals like Ralph Goodale want to call into question the validity of the last election he should recall the infamous sponsorship years when his party financed whole Quebec campaigns with money stolen from the taxpayers of Canada.\r\n\r\nStrange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley\'s son\'s job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Actually this whole thing proves Harper’s claim about govt agencies acting as a check on his power.

Elections Canada shopped around and found a liberal judge in Toronto and then broke their own rules by conducting an illegal raid to allegedly obtain documents that the Conservatives were going to use to prove their claim against EC in court!

The Conservatives would not destroy documents they would need to prove their case. In fact the conservatives arent hiding anything because they dont feel they have done anything wrong.

If Liberals like Ralph Goodale want to call into question the validity of the last election he should recall the infamous sponsorship years when his party financed whole Quebec campaigns with money stolen from the taxpayers of Canada.

Strange that Elections Canada didnt bother looking into that one. Perhaps Kingsley’s son’s job with the Liberals was too important to risk a probe.

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]]> By: BlastFurnace http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14777 BlastFurnace Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:40:30 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14777 This has gotten beyond the point of laughable. Set aside the fact that the Chief Electoral Officer and his or her assistant can only be impeached and removed by a majority of BOTH houses of Parliament; something which is also true of federally appointed judges (under the Constitution) -- and of course will not happen so long as there's a minority in the lower house and the Liberals maintain their majority in the Senate. This goes against so-called Harper's "reassurances" during the last election that the Senate, the courts and independent agencies would continue to act as a check against him. This should not be surprising at all considering he broke his promises on health care reform and income trust taxation. A control freak starts a reign of terror by Killing the Friendly Giant and hoping people will quickly forget those things, BEFORE the real damage is done and it's too late to fight back.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14777','BlastFurnace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14777','BlastFurnace','This has gotten beyond the point of laughable. Set aside the fact that the Chief Electoral Officer and his or her assistant can only be impeached and removed by a majority of BOTH houses of Parliament; something which is also true of federally appointed judges (under the Constitution) -- and of course will not happen so long as there\'s a minority in the lower house and the Liberals maintain their majority in the Senate.\r\n\r\nThis goes against so-called Harper\'s \"reassurances\" during the last election that the Senate, the courts and independent agencies would continue to act as a check against him. This should not be surprising at all considering he broke his promises on health care reform and income trust taxation. A control freak starts a reign of terror by Killing the Friendly Giant and hoping people will quickly forget those things, BEFORE the real damage is done and it\'s too late to fight back.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This has gotten beyond the point of laughable. Set aside the fact that the Chief Electoral Officer and his or her assistant can only be impeached and removed by a majority of BOTH houses of Parliament; something which is also true of federally appointed judges (under the Constitution) — and of course will not happen so long as there’s a minority in the lower house and the Liberals maintain their majority in the Senate.

This goes against so-called Harper’s “reassurances” during the last election that the Senate, the courts and independent agencies would continue to act as a check against him. This should not be surprising at all considering he broke his promises on health care reform and income trust taxation. A control freak starts a reign of terror by Killing the Friendly Giant and hoping people will quickly forget those things, BEFORE the real damage is done and it’s too late to fight back.

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]]> By: Sandi http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14776 Sandi Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:25:27 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14776 As we all know - playing the victim is a sign of weakness. Therefore, Harper is a weak leader.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14776','Sandi'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14776','Sandi','As we all know - playing the victim is a sign of weakness.\r\n\r\nTherefore, Harper is a weak leader.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> As we all know - playing the victim is a sign of weakness.

Therefore, Harper is a weak leader.

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]]> By: pogge http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/04/30/interesting-facts-about-elections-canada/#comment-14775 pogge Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:55:28 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1249#comment-14775 All joking about Canada's Illegitimate Government aside, we would do well to remember that "the government", in fact, voted in support of Elections Canada because a majority of MPs did, just as any legislation that's passed in the commons still requires a majority of votes. In this context, "the government" and "the governing party" aren't synonymous as much as that may annoy the Conservatives.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14775','pogge'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14775','pogge','All joking about Canada\'s Illegitimate \r\nGovernment aside, we would do well to remember that \"the government\", in fact, voted in support of Elections Canada because a majority of MPs did, just as any legislation that\'s passed in the commons still requires a majority of votes. In this context, \"the government\" and \"the governing party\" aren\'t synonymous as much as that may annoy the Conservatives.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> All joking about Canada’s Illegitimate
Government aside, we would do well to remember that “the government”, in fact, voted in support of Elections Canada because a majority of MPs did, just as any legislation that’s passed in the commons still requires a majority of votes. In this context, “the government” and “the governing party” aren’t synonymous as much as that may annoy the Conservatives.
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