I bet you feel really stupid right now, don’t you?

Hey, why don’t these guys take responsibility for their actions? Last I checked “but everyone else did it” is not a n excuse for committing wrong acts.

Sucker.

And gee, the other political parties think the liberals owe more. Wow - that means so much. I think we should give the LPC the same consideration the CPC is seeking - the benefit of the doubt. When you come up with, you know, evidence, I will be persuaded. If you say I am wrong, bring evidence to the table.

In any event, who cares. This post is about the wrongdoing of the CPC, and their complete and utter failure to own up to that…you know, be accountable, take responsibility, behave like adults…

That is open to interpretation too. According to CPC,NDP and the Bloc the Liberals are still owing the taxpayer millions of dollars.

That statement is wrong on so many levels I seriously hope you dont believe it.

Dont peddle crap like that…And if you think that envelopes stuffed with 20’s can be audited…

And you base this on…

That is right, you have nothing to base this on. EC are doing their jobs. I have yet to hear anything from them that suggests they think they should be the final authority on anything.

In any event, I think it is wrong for us to concentrate on whether the CPC will get “off” on a technicality. Anyone who reads the affidavit can see they exploited a loophole in order to act in a manner that contradicts the spirit and intent of the spending cap - and then claimed my money (and your money) as a rebate.

So again, let us compare (since you are in to that):

Liberals call an inquiry, and make full restitution

CPC tell their candidates to shut up, deliberately mistate the facts, sue for 700 thousand tax dollars, and whine about unfair treatment rather than “man up” and take responsibility.

Elections Canada made an allegation and now they will have to prove it in court. But dont confuse EC with the courts. They arent, and they dont like that fact much.

As for comparing this to Adscam, one is the most offensive fraud perpetrated on Canadians and the other is a dispute between a governmental agency and a political party.

But to inflate this dispute into a scandal insults the intelligence of most ordinary voters and turns them off to the Liberals.

How about the malarkey about comparing this to sponsorship - like somehow that exonerates the CPC.

Harper is behaving like a child who refuses to take responsibility for his own behaviour. Deal with it.

Martin investigated Chretien. It wasnt out of a genuine desire to put things right. It was part of their ongoing feud.

And there is still the matter of repayment and jail time for senior Liberal operatives. Dont give me the malarkey about paying it back.

The dispute the conservatives have with Elections Canada is more of an accounting treatment. This is not a criminal action and the courts will decide who is right. Elections Canada will have to justify their actions in court as will the conservatives, but to suggest that EC is the final arbiter of right and wrong is incorrect.

Did anyone say otherwise?

What IS telling is the different way each party handled this. The liberals call an enquiry, open the books and pay the money back.

The cons start pointing fingers, making false allegations about other parties and fall into “victim” mode.

If your 8 year old was consequenced at school and complained about it because “teacher picks on me”, would you tell her she has to be accountable for her own actions, or would you sue the teacher.

I mean, flat broke Quebec liberals bought two elections with cash filled brown envelopes. They were supplied through a kickback scheme invented and devised by senior advisers to Jean Chretien.

Without these cash filled envelopes many Quebec Liberals could not have funded their campaign offices. Talk about a scandal.

And you idiots think an accounting scheme is going to shift votes…

Get used to the hinterland.

You guys are fucked.