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15043. wilson said on May 16, 2008 at 9:47 am

‘If you want real substantial plans to help start the process of controlling GHG’s, then vote Liberal”.’

If liberals ‘didn’t get it done’ with a majority government, Dion as enviro minister, and 8 successive surplus budgets following their signing of Kyoto, why should anyone believe liberals now?

15045. mushroom said on May 16, 2008 at 1:40 pm

“corporate Big Oil polluters want, Big Oil will get”

Thanx for stealing Jack Layton’s rhetoric. All for supporting a gas tax holiday and passing the revenue collected from the consumer to the oil producers :(

It should be vote Liberal for a greener Canada, fairer Canada, and a richer Canada. Environmentally friendlier, more money in the pockets of working families, and a comprehensive anti-poverty strategy.

15046. Scott Tribe said on May 16, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Mushroom, what the heck are you going on about? I did nothing to steal “Jack Layton’s rhetoric”, nor did I support what you claimed I did.

Re-read the piece a bit more carefully.

15047. kursk said on May 16, 2008 at 2:07 pm

I just have to frown when i read of Liberals wanting to reach into my pocket with one hand whilst whispering in my ear how i will enjoy it, and how it will be good for me..!

I do not trust Liberals with my tax money.Period.

15048. mushroom said on May 16, 2008 at 2:14 pm

Just nitpicking as usual over semantics.

I prefer you do not use the word Big Oil, this term is more of a populist sentiment expressed by Layton. My bone of contention, feel free to ignore my misrepresentation.

Mind you, oil companies will still receive corporate tax cuts as part of a “revenue neutral” carbon tax. They may also get incentives for developing environmentally friendly alternative technologies at the same time.

15051. johnmurney said on May 17, 2008 at 4:19 am

Scott, Dion will come to rue the day he advocated a carbon tax; I am already there. From whom does Dion get his ridiculous political advice?

15056. burpnrun said on May 17, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Yeah, go for it Dion/Scott. Anything to ensure a CPC majority! And to provide fun and comic relief, here’s Lorrie Goldstein’s articles on the questions we should all ask Dion and/or canvassers at our door during the next election:

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Goldstein_Lorrie/2008/05/14/5559956-sun.php

15064. Steve V said on May 18, 2008 at 11:10 am

Yes, Liberals should care what Goldstein “the denier” thinks. Clearly, his audience of sunspot, Gore hating stooges, is the Liberal target audience. What next, Ezra’s opinion? Who cares.

15084. mushroom said on May 18, 2008 at 6:30 pm

Johnmurney,

The prelims of Dion’s plan came from Mintz and Olewiler. He is quite big on it, being the policy wonk he is. Probably sitting in his nighttable. The scope of it is here:

‘That plan, proposed by economist Jack Mintz and Nancy Olewiler of the Sustainable Prosperity Institute, would leave the existing excise tax of 10 cents per litre of gasoline and four cents per litre of diesel unchanged. The authors estimate that applying the excise tax to other fuels would increase tax revenue by between $12 billion and $15 billion annually. The revenue could be used to substantially lower personal and business taxes and to fund tax credits related to climate change technologies.

Mintz and Olewiler said “there should be no net increase in taxes associated with this proposal.”‘

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