Comments on: No guts, no glory. No risk, no reward. http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:13:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dion’s Carbon Tax « Elves Can Blog http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15117 Dion’s Carbon Tax « Elves Can Blog Tue, 20 May 2008 16:35:52 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15117 [...] on Sunday morning was devoted to the carbon tax. The Canadian blogosphere and op-ed pages are abuzz with pro’s and con’s. The parties are staking out their positions. We hear that Dion plans to [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15117','Dionâs Carbon Tax &laquo; Elves Can Blog'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15117','Dionâs Carbon Tax &laquo; Elves Can Blog','&#91;...&#93; on Sunday morning was devoted to the carbon tax. The Canadian blogosphere and op-ed pages are abuzz with proâs and conâs. The parties are staking out their positions. We hear that Dion plans to &#91;...&#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] on Sunday morning was devoted to the carbon tax. The Canadian blogosphere and op-ed pages are abuzz with pro’s and con’s. The parties are staking out their positions. We hear that Dion plans to [...]
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]]> By: mushroom http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15084 mushroom Sun, 18 May 2008 22:30:51 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15084 Johnmurney, The prelims of Dion's plan came from Mintz and Olewiler. He is quite big on it, being the policy wonk he is. Probably sitting in his nighttable. The scope of it is here: 'That plan, proposed by economist Jack Mintz and Nancy Olewiler of the Sustainable Prosperity Institute, would leave the existing excise tax of 10 cents per litre of gasoline and four cents per litre of diesel unchanged. The authors estimate that applying the excise tax to other fuels would increase tax revenue by between $12 billion and $15 billion annually. The revenue could be used to substantially lower personal and business taxes and to fund tax credits related to climate change technologies. Mintz and Olewiler said "there should be no net increase in taxes associated with this proposal."'<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15084','mushroom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15084','mushroom','Johnmurney,\r\n\r\nThe prelims of Dion\'s plan came from Mintz and Olewiler. He is quite big on it, being the policy wonk he is. Probably sitting in his nighttable. The scope of it is here:\r\n\r\n\'That plan, proposed by economist Jack Mintz and Nancy Olewiler of the Sustainable Prosperity Institute, would leave the existing excise tax of 10 cents per litre of gasoline and four cents per litre of diesel unchanged. The authors estimate that applying the excise tax to other fuels would increase tax revenue by between $12 billion and $15 billion annually. The revenue could be used to substantially lower personal and business taxes and to fund tax credits related to climate change technologies.\r\n\r\nMintz and Olewiler said \"there should be no net increase in taxes associated with this proposal.\"\''); return false;">Quote</a></div> Johnmurney,

The prelims of Dion’s plan came from Mintz and Olewiler. He is quite big on it, being the policy wonk he is. Probably sitting in his nighttable. The scope of it is here:

‘That plan, proposed by economist Jack Mintz and Nancy Olewiler of the Sustainable Prosperity Institute, would leave the existing excise tax of 10 cents per litre of gasoline and four cents per litre of diesel unchanged. The authors estimate that applying the excise tax to other fuels would increase tax revenue by between $12 billion and $15 billion annually. The revenue could be used to substantially lower personal and business taxes and to fund tax credits related to climate change technologies.

Mintz and Olewiler said “there should be no net increase in taxes associated with this proposal.”‘

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]]> By: Steve V http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15064 Steve V Sun, 18 May 2008 15:10:10 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15064 Yes, Liberals should care what Goldstein "the denier" thinks. Clearly, his audience of sunspot, Gore hating stooges, is the Liberal target audience. What next, Ezra's opinion? Who cares.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15064','Steve V'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15064','Steve V','Yes, Liberals should care what Goldstein \"the denier\" thinks. Clearly, his audience of sunspot, Gore hating stooges, is the Liberal target audience. What next, Ezra\'s opinion? Who cares.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Yes, Liberals should care what Goldstein “the denier” thinks. Clearly, his audience of sunspot, Gore hating stooges, is the Liberal target audience. What next, Ezra’s opinion? Who cares.
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]]> By: burpnrun http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15056 burpnrun Sat, 17 May 2008 19:23:20 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15056 Yeah, go for it Dion/Scott. Anything to ensure a CPC majority! And to provide fun and comic relief, here's Lorrie Goldstein's articles on the questions we should all ask Dion and/or canvassers at our door during the next election: http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Goldstein_Lorrie/2008/05/14/5559956-sun.php<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15056','burpnrun'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15056','burpnrun','Yeah, go for it Dion\/Scott. Anything to ensure a CPC majority! And to provide fun and comic relief, here\'s Lorrie Goldstein\'s articles on the questions we should all ask Dion and\/or canvassers at our door during the next election:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.torontosun.com\/News\/Columnists\/Goldstein_Lorrie\/2008\/05\/14\/5559956-sun.php'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Yeah, go for it Dion/Scott. Anything to ensure a CPC majority! And to provide fun and comic relief, here’s Lorrie Goldstein’s articles on the questions we should all ask Dion and/or canvassers at our door during the next election:

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Goldstein_Lorrie/2008/05/14/5559956-sun.php

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]]> By: johnmurney http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15051 johnmurney Sat, 17 May 2008 08:19:10 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15051 Scott, Dion will come to rue the day he advocated a carbon tax; I am already there. From whom does Dion get his ridiculous political advice?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15051','johnmurney'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15051','johnmurney','Scott, Dion will come to rue the day he advocated a carbon tax; I am already there. From whom does Dion get his ridiculous political advice?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Scott, Dion will come to rue the day he advocated a carbon tax; I am already there. From whom does Dion get his ridiculous political advice?
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]]> By: mushroom http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15048 mushroom Fri, 16 May 2008 18:14:43 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15048 Just nitpicking as usual over semantics. I prefer you do not use the word Big Oil, this term is more of a populist sentiment expressed by Layton. My bone of contention, feel free to ignore my misrepresentation. Mind you, oil companies will still receive corporate tax cuts as part of a "revenue neutral" carbon tax. They may also get incentives for developing environmentally friendly alternative technologies at the same time.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15048','mushroom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15048','mushroom','Just nitpicking as usual over semantics.\r\n\r\nI prefer you do not use the word Big Oil, this term is more of a populist sentiment expressed by Layton. My bone of contention, feel free to ignore my misrepresentation. \r\n\r\nMind you, oil companies will still receive corporate tax cuts as part of a \"revenue neutral\" carbon tax. They may also get incentives for developing environmentally friendly alternative technologies at the same time.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Just nitpicking as usual over semantics.

I prefer you do not use the word Big Oil, this term is more of a populist sentiment expressed by Layton. My bone of contention, feel free to ignore my misrepresentation.

Mind you, oil companies will still receive corporate tax cuts as part of a “revenue neutral” carbon tax. They may also get incentives for developing environmentally friendly alternative technologies at the same time.

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]]> By: kursk http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15047 kursk Fri, 16 May 2008 18:07:37 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15047 I just have to frown when i read of Liberals wanting to reach into my pocket with one hand whilst whispering in my ear how i will enjoy it, and how it will be good for me..! I do not trust Liberals with my tax money.Period.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15047','kursk'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15047','kursk','I just have to frown when i read of Liberals wanting to reach into my pocket with one hand whilst whispering in my ear how i will enjoy it, and how it will be good for me..!\r\n\r\nI do not trust Liberals with my tax money.Period.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I just have to frown when i read of Liberals wanting to reach into my pocket with one hand whilst whispering in my ear how i will enjoy it, and how it will be good for me..!

I do not trust Liberals with my tax money.Period.

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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15046 Scott Tribe Fri, 16 May 2008 17:50:29 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15046 Mushroom, what the heck are you going on about? I did nothing to steal "Jack Layton's rhetoric", nor did I support what you claimed I did. Re-read the piece a bit more carefully.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15046','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15046','Scott Tribe','Mushroom, what the heck are you going on about? I did nothing to steal \"Jack Layton\'s rhetoric\", nor did I support what you claimed I did.\r\n\r\nRe-read the piece a bit more carefully.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mushroom, what the heck are you going on about? I did nothing to steal “Jack Layton’s rhetoric”, nor did I support what you claimed I did.

Re-read the piece a bit more carefully.

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]]> By: mushroom http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15045 mushroom Fri, 16 May 2008 17:40:59 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15045 "corporate Big Oil polluters want, Big Oil will get" Thanx for stealing Jack Layton's rhetoric. All for supporting a gas tax holiday and passing the revenue collected from the consumer to the oil producers :( It should be vote Liberal for a greener Canada, fairer Canada, and a richer Canada. Environmentally friendlier, more money in the pockets of working families, and a comprehensive anti-poverty strategy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15045','mushroom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15045','mushroom','\"corporate Big Oil polluters want, Big Oil will get\"\r\n\r\nThanx for stealing Jack Layton\'s rhetoric. All for supporting a gas tax holiday and passing the revenue collected from the consumer to the oil producers :(\r\n\r\nIt should be vote Liberal for a greener Canada, fairer Canada, and a richer Canada. Environmentally friendlier, more money in the pockets of working families, and a comprehensive anti-poverty strategy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> “corporate Big Oil polluters want, Big Oil will get”

Thanx for stealing Jack Layton’s rhetoric. All for supporting a gas tax holiday and passing the revenue collected from the consumer to the oil producers :(

It should be vote Liberal for a greener Canada, fairer Canada, and a richer Canada. Environmentally friendlier, more money in the pockets of working families, and a comprehensive anti-poverty strategy.

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]]> By: wilson http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/05/16/no-guts-no-glory-no-risk-no-reward/#comment-15043 wilson Fri, 16 May 2008 13:47:41 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1295#comment-15043 'If you want real substantial plans to help start the process of controlling GHG’s, then vote Liberal”.' If liberals 'didn't get it done' with a majority government, Dion as enviro minister, and 8 successive surplus budgets following their signing of Kyoto, why should anyone believe liberals now?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15043','wilson'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15043','wilson','\'If you want real substantial plans to help start the process of controlling GHGâs, then vote Liberalâ.\'\r\n\r\nIf liberals \'didn\'t get it done\' with a majority government, Dion as enviro minister, and 8 successive surplus budgets following their signing of Kyoto, why should anyone believe liberals now?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> ‘If you want real substantial plans to help start the process of controlling GHG’s, then vote Liberal”.’

If liberals ‘didn’t get it done’ with a majority government, Dion as enviro minister, and 8 successive surplus budgets following their signing of Kyoto, why should anyone believe liberals now?

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