Comments on: More examples/evidence of climate change in North America, & why policies like “Green Shift” need to be implemented. http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:41:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mike Harris http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15534 Mike Harris Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:45:36 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15534 i have posted on here a few times about where are the targets that this is going to make any difference and yet no one seems to be able to provide a link..thats because there is no target..its all about robbing the rich togive to the poor~~~this troll pays more than his fair share of taxes..you want to pay more taxes vote dion..then i will move west when it separates from the rest of canada<a href='#comment-15518' rel="nofollow">@Paladiea</a> -<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15534','Mike Harris'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15534','Mike Harris','i have posted on here a few times about where are the targets that this is going to make any difference and yet no one seems to be able to provide a link..thats because there is no target..its all about robbing the rich togive to the poor~~~this troll pays more than his fair share of taxes..you want to pay more taxes vote dion..then i will move west when it separates from the rest of canada<a href=\'#comment-15518\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Paladiea<\/a> -'); return false;">Quote</a></div> i have posted on here a few times about where are the targets that this is going to make any difference and yet no one seems to be able to provide a link..thats because there is no target..its all about robbing the rich togive to the poor~~~this troll pays more than his fair share of taxes..you want to pay more taxes vote dion..then i will move west when it separates from the rest of canada@Paladiea -
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]]> By: Ted http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15532 Ted Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:58:01 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15532 The green shift will appeal to those who live downtown, use public transit, ride bikes to work, eat organic food, go to Starbucks, etc. Those of us who live in the suburbs, or rural areas, see organic as the fraud that it is, go to Tim Hortons for our coffee at half the price thank you very much, see that the green shaft will eat at our pocket books. Are these the voters Dion needs? Or does he only want to appeal to the city vote?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15532','Ted'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15532','Ted','The green shift will appeal to those who live downtown, use public transit, ride bikes to work, eat organic food, go to Starbucks, etc. Those of us who live in the suburbs, or rural areas, see organic as the fraud that it is, go to Tim Hortons for our coffee at half the price thank you very much, see that the green shaft will eat at our pocket books. Are these the voters Dion needs? Or does he only want to appeal to the city vote?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The green shift will appeal to those who live downtown, use public transit, ride bikes to work, eat organic food, go to Starbucks, etc. Those of us who live in the suburbs, or rural areas, see organic as the fraud that it is, go to Tim Hortons for our coffee at half the price thank you very much, see that the green shaft will eat at our pocket books. Are these the voters Dion needs? Or does he only want to appeal to the city vote?
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]]> By: Paladiea http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15518 Paladiea Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:31:04 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15518 I don't know what's sadder Scott... That Mike Harris is commenting on your blog or that he sounds like every other right wing troll...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15518','Paladiea'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15518','Paladiea','I don\'t know what\'s sadder Scott... That Mike Harris is commenting on your blog or that he sounds like every other right wing troll...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don’t know what’s sadder Scott… That Mike Harris is commenting on your blog or that he sounds like every other right wing troll…
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]]> By: Mike Harris http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15510 Mike Harris Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:09:30 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15510 I have yet to see where in the green shift about any hard targets? And how is one country doing this going to make a huge difference over all. there seems to be a bit of a contradiction and i have heard it on the news that we are actually experiencing a cooling trend now..the fact that science has yet to prove that we are actually causing permanent damage is pure speculation. these 2500 so called scientists that all have said this is happening is a LIE. they are not all scientists. in the last few thousand years we have had some very hot periods and ice ages..some scientist believe it is a normal cycle. but the enviroment is a sexy topic right now and the libs being the desperate party they are to get back in power are willing to do anything to get canadians to vote for them. taxing the shit out of every product on the market and then giving modest tax breaks to hard working canadians and better breaks to low income earners is NOT the answer..it has serious recesion written all over it. is harper doing enough?? NO but he is not willing to drive the economy into the ground for the sake of staying in power also. why is it that the left leaners are against big companys making profits? dont get me wrong...i hate the gas prices also. scott..i read here once that you dont drive and you live at your parents house so how is a green shift going to affect you? it wont much. but those of us who rely on our cars to get to work and feed our familys need tax relief not more taxes. if this green shift is really revenue zero then what is the point? why take away money from some just to give it all back in another way? it makes no sense. just maybe the west is the place to be if the libs get back in because then there will be a seperatist revolution out there and that will be the place to be!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15510','Mike Harris'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15510','Mike Harris','I have yet to see where in the green shift about any hard targets? And how is one country doing this going to make a huge difference over all. there seems to be a bit of a contradiction and i have heard it on the news that we are actually experiencing a cooling trend now..the fact that science has yet to prove that we are actually causing permanent damage is pure speculation. these 2500 so called scientists that all have said this is happening is a LIE. they are not all scientists. in the last few thousand years we have had some very hot periods and ice ages..some scientist believe it is a normal cycle. but the enviroment is a sexy topic right now and the libs being the desperate party they are to get back in power are willing to do anything to get canadians to vote for them. taxing the shit out of every product on the market and then giving modest tax breaks to hard working canadians and better breaks to low income earners is NOT the answer..it has serious recesion written all over it. is harper doing enough?? NO but he is not willing to drive the economy into the ground for the sake of staying in power also. why is it that the left leaners are against big companys making profits? dont get me wrong...i hate the gas prices also. scott..i read here once that you dont drive and you live at your parents house so how is a green shift going to affect you? it wont much. but those of us who rely on our cars to get to work and feed our familys need tax relief not more taxes. if this green shift is really revenue zero then what is the point? why take away money from some just to give it all back in another way? it makes no sense. just maybe the west is the place to be if the libs get back in because then there will be a seperatist revolution out there and that will be the place to be!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have yet to see where in the green shift about any hard targets? And how is one country doing this going to make a huge difference over all. there seems to be a bit of a contradiction and i have heard it on the news that we are actually experiencing a cooling trend now..the fact that science has yet to prove that we are actually causing permanent damage is pure speculation. these 2500 so called scientists that all have said this is happening is a LIE. they are not all scientists. in the last few thousand years we have had some very hot periods and ice ages..some scientist believe it is a normal cycle. but the enviroment is a sexy topic right now and the libs being the desperate party they are to get back in power are willing to do anything to get canadians to vote for them. taxing the shit out of every product on the market and then giving modest tax breaks to hard working canadians and better breaks to low income earners is NOT the answer..it has serious recesion written all over it. is harper doing enough?? NO but he is not willing to drive the economy into the ground for the sake of staying in power also. why is it that the left leaners are against big companys making profits? dont get me wrong…i hate the gas prices also. scott..i read here once that you dont drive and you live at your parents house so how is a green shift going to affect you? it wont much. but those of us who rely on our cars to get to work and feed our familys need tax relief not more taxes. if this green shift is really revenue zero then what is the point? why take away money from some just to give it all back in another way? it makes no sense. just maybe the west is the place to be if the libs get back in because then there will be a seperatist revolution out there and that will be the place to be!!
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]]> By: Ted http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15509 Ted Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:53:17 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15509 We have had extreme weather ever since I was born and many years before that. Its part of nature. Letting people build on the Mississipi flood plain is human stupidity. Using FEMA dollars to rebuild the beach house after a hurricane is the ultimite in liberal government stupidity.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15509','Ted'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15509','Ted','We have had extreme weather ever since I was born and many years before that. Its part of nature.\r\nLetting people build on the Mississipi flood plain is human stupidity. \r\nUsing FEMA dollars to rebuild the beach house after a hurricane is the ultimite in liberal government stupidity.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> We have had extreme weather ever since I was born and many years before that. Its part of nature.
Letting people build on the Mississipi flood plain is human stupidity.
Using FEMA dollars to rebuild the beach house after a hurricane is the ultimite in liberal government stupidity.
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]]> By: Annie http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15507 Annie Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:07:45 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15507 From the latest poll and everything, I read, it is all against the Green plan. Just look at all the rain we have had here, in Southern Ontario., Unusual thunderstorms. The farmers have had too much rain for their corn, where they are always complaining of it being too dry. We need to do something...I know it, but, from what I read, the ones out West do not know it, or don't care.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15507','Annie'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15507','Annie','From the latest poll and everything, I read, it is all against the Green plan. Just look at all the rain we have had here, in Southern Ontario., Unusual thunderstorms. The farmers have had too much rain for their corn, where they are always complaining of it being too dry. We need to do something...I know it, but, from what I read, the ones out West do not know it, or don\'t care.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> From the latest poll and everything, I read, it is all against the Green plan. Just look at all the rain we have had here, in Southern Ontario., Unusual thunderstorms. The farmers have had too much rain for their corn, where they are always complaining of it being too dry. We need to do something…I know it, but, from what I read, the ones out West do not know it, or don’t care.
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]]> By: JimBobby http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/28/more-examplesevidence-of-climate-change-in-north-america/#comment-15506 JimBobby Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:21:46 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=1403#comment-15506 <i>...a plan like the Liberals Green Shift is necessary and indeed, urgent. </i> Whooee! Well, Scotty, a lot of us agree with that. We need a plan <b>like</b> the LPC plan only a lot <a href="http://www.greenparty.ca/carbontaxplan" rel="nofollow">stronger</a>. The LPC plan is aimed , in part, at voter acceptance, saleability. From what we've seen so far, I'd call it too little, too late. The tax-shift is a good start but it needs to be accompanied by a spending-shift that reflects the urgency of the climate crisis. Sadly, it won't be until we've passed the tipping point that people will wake up and realize they needed to swallow some inconvenient truths back in 2008. JB<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15506','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15506','JimBobby','<i>...a plan like the Liberals Green Shift is necessary and indeed, urgent. <\/i>\r\n\r\n\r\nWhooee! Well, Scotty, a lot of us agree with that. We need a plan <b>like<\/b> the LPC plan only a lot <a href=\"http:\/\/www.greenparty.ca\/carbontaxplan\" rel=\"nofollow\">stronger<\/a>. The LPC plan is aimed , in part, at voter acceptance, saleability. From what we\'ve seen so far, I\'d call it too little, too late.\r\n\r\nThe tax-shift is a good start but it needs to be accompanied by a spending-shift that reflects the urgency of the climate crisis. Sadly, it won\'t be until we\'ve passed the tipping point that people will wake up and realize they needed to swallow some inconvenient truths back in 2008.\r\n\r\nJB'); return false;">Quote</a></div> …a plan like the Liberals Green Shift is necessary and indeed, urgent.

Whooee! Well, Scotty, a lot of us agree with that. We need a plan like the LPC plan only a lot stronger. The LPC plan is aimed , in part, at voter acceptance, saleability. From what we’ve seen so far, I’d call it too little, too late.

The tax-shift is a good start but it needs to be accompanied by a spending-shift that reflects the urgency of the climate crisis. Sadly, it won’t be until we’ve passed the tipping point that people will wake up and realize they needed to swallow some inconvenient truths back in 2008.

JB

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