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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/30/dont-let-facts-get-in-the-way-of-your-fearmongering/#comment-15558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

You have quite a few facts wrong.

The Green Shift would be implemented over four years, with the tax ramping up gradually, $10/tonne per year, ending at $40/tonne.

The Dion Green Shift tax cuts are across the board, and includes a corporate tax cut. There are tax credits for low incomes families with children, and for corporations which R&#38;D emissions reducing technologies. Corporations can also write down emissions-reduction equipment faster.

Taxing carbon has to happen, and every political party has one plan or another for doing so. Harper himself has a carbon trading system announced this past March  for which they are being written up as we speak. There are no tax cuts related to it, and it will also be passed down to the consumer. It targets a 20% reduction by 2020, same as the Green Shift. 

Global warming is real, and we have to start doing something about it. We are already paying the costs of inaction.

I hope most Canadians are smart enough to realize this.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15558','Mark Francis'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15558','Mark Francis','Mike,\r\n\r\nYou have quite a few facts wrong.\r\n\r\nThe Green Shift would be implemented over four years, with the tax ramping up gradually, $10\/tonne per year, ending at $40\/tonne.\r\n\r\nThe Dion Green Shift tax cuts are across the board, and includes a corporate tax cut. There are tax credits for low incomes families with children, and for corporations which R&#38;amp;D emissions reducing technologies. Corporations can also write down emissions-reduction equipment faster.\r\n\r\nTaxing carbon has to happen, and every political party has one plan or another for doing so. Harper himself has a carbon trading system announced this past March  for which they are being written up as we speak. There are no tax cuts related to it, and it will also be passed down to the consumer. It targets a 20% reduction by 2020, same as the Green Shift. \r\n\r\nGlobal warming is real, and we have to start doing something about it. We are already paying the costs of inaction.\r\n\r\nI hope most Canadians are smart enough to realize this.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>You have quite a few facts wrong.</p>
<p>The Green Shift would be implemented over four years, with the tax ramping up gradually, $10/tonne per year, ending at $40/tonne.</p>
<p>The Dion Green Shift tax cuts are across the board, and includes a corporate tax cut. There are tax credits for low incomes families with children, and for corporations which R&amp;D emissions reducing technologies. Corporations can also write down emissions-reduction equipment faster.</p>
<p>Taxing carbon has to happen, and every political party has one plan or another for doing so. Harper himself has a carbon trading system announced this past March  for which they are being written up as we speak. There are no tax cuts related to it, and it will also be passed down to the consumer. It targets a 20% reduction by 2020, same as the Green Shift. </p>
<p>Global warming is real, and we have to start doing something about it. We are already paying the costs of inaction.</p>
<p>I hope most Canadians are smart enough to realize this.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15558','Mark Francis'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15558','Mark Francis','Mike,\r\n\r\nYou have quite a few facts wrong.\r\n\r\nThe Green Shift would be implemented over four years, with the tax ramping up gradually, $10\/tonne per year, ending at $40\/tonne.\r\n\r\nThe Dion Green Shift tax cuts are across the board, and includes a corporate tax cut. There are tax credits for low incomes families with children, and for corporations which R&amp;amp;D emissions reducing technologies. Corporations can also write down emissions-reduction equipment faster.\r\n\r\nTaxing carbon has to happen, and every political party has one plan or another for doing so. Harper himself has a carbon trading system announced this past March  for which they are being written up as we speak. There are no tax cuts related to it, and it will also be passed down to the consumer. It targets a 20% reduction by 2020, same as the Green Shift. \r\n\r\nGlobal warming is real, and we have to start doing something about it. We are already paying the costs of inaction.\r\n\r\nI hope most Canadians are smart enough to realize this.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where in this plan is the targets they hope to achieve?? You say that corpoations will avoid the tax by reducing? And this is going to cost major corps billions to do so and who is going to bear rhe cost...consumers..you think they are going to spend billions to reduce yet not pass the cost along? So the cost of goods goes up...consumers pay more and then we get slapped with a carbon tax along with that and i see bad things for our economy. Dion says the tax savings..oh and just for lower income canadians will take place over a 4 year period? So in the meantime where is the 45 billion going to go that he has collected? To me this looks like a typical liberal tax grab that he has dressed up to look like he is going to be the saviour of the worlds eco system. Sad really. I just hope that most Canadians are smart enough to realize this&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15551','Mike Harris'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15551','Mike Harris','Where in this plan is the targets they hope to achieve?? You say that corpoations will avoid the tax by reducing? And this is going to cost major corps billions to do so and who is going to bear rhe cost...consumers..you think they are going to spend billions to reduce yet not pass the cost along? So the cost of goods goes up...consumers pay more and then we get slapped with a carbon tax along with that and i see bad things for our economy. Dion says the tax savings..oh and just for lower income canadians will take place over a 4 year period? So in the meantime where is the 45 billion going to go that he has collected? To me this looks like a typical liberal tax grab that he has dressed up to look like he is going to be the saviour of the worlds eco system. Sad really. I just hope that most Canadians are smart enough to realize this'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where in this plan is the targets they hope to achieve?? You say that corpoations will avoid the tax by reducing? And this is going to cost major corps billions to do so and who is going to bear rhe cost&#8230;consumers..you think they are going to spend billions to reduce yet not pass the cost along? So the cost of goods goes up&#8230;consumers pay more and then we get slapped with a carbon tax along with that and i see bad things for our economy. Dion says the tax savings..oh and just for lower income canadians will take place over a 4 year period? So in the meantime where is the 45 billion going to go that he has collected? To me this looks like a typical liberal tax grab that he has dressed up to look like he is going to be the saviour of the worlds eco system. Sad really. I just hope that most Canadians are smart enough to realize this
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15551','Mike Harris'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15551','Mike Harris','Where in this plan is the targets they hope to achieve?? You say that corpoations will avoid the tax by reducing? And this is going to cost major corps billions to do so and who is going to bear rhe cost...consumers..you think they are going to spend billions to reduce yet not pass the cost along? So the cost of goods goes up...consumers pay more and then we get slapped with a carbon tax along with that and i see bad things for our economy. Dion says the tax savings..oh and just for lower income canadians will take place over a 4 year period? So in the meantime where is the 45 billion going to go that he has collected? To me this looks like a typical liberal tax grab that he has dressed up to look like he is going to be the saviour of the worlds eco system. Sad really. I just hope that most Canadians are smart enough to realize this'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give taxayers a modest break. "

Corps will avoid the tax by reducing emissions. This will allow them to pay less tax, increasing profits.

This will not trash Canada's economy. it's really just about $15 billion being added to the wholesale cost of some products via a tax, and then that tax money being distributed to consumers (mostly -- there's a corporate tax cut) to keep the cost borne by the corporation. This creates an impetuous by the corps to find ways to reduce that cost. Swinging $15 billion around in a $1 trillion economy will not ruin Canada.

This has been done in other countries with success before, Sweden did it during an economic downturn, with success.

Stephen Harper's plan is to introduce carbon trading, which will increase corps' costs, and will not lessen the impact on consumers. Carbon will be necessary soon enough, and is in the Liberal's policy book, but it is a laugh to see Harper essentially claiming that his own plan is "crazy."&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15535','Mark Francis'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15535','Mark Francis','\&#34;What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give taxayers a modest break. \&#34;\r\n\r\nCorps will avoid the tax by reducing emissions. This will allow them to pay less tax, increasing profits.\r\n\r\nThis will not trash Canada\'s economy. it\'s really just about $15 billion being added to the wholesale cost of some products via a tax, and then that tax money being distributed to consumers (mostly -- there\'s a corporate tax cut) to keep the cost borne by the corporation. This creates an impetuous by the corps to find ways to reduce that cost. Swinging $15 billion around in a $1 trillion economy will not ruin Canada.\r\n\r\nThis has been done in other countries with success before, Sweden did it during an economic downturn, with success.\r\n\r\nStephen Harper\'s plan is to introduce carbon trading, which will increase corps\' costs, and will not lessen the impact on consumers. Carbon will be necessary soon enough, and is in the Liberal\'s policy book, but it is a laugh to see Harper essentially claiming that his own plan is \&#34;crazy.\&#34;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give taxayers a modest break. &#8221;</p>
<p>Corps will avoid the tax by reducing emissions. This will allow them to pay less tax, increasing profits.</p>
<p>This will not trash Canada&#8217;s economy. it&#8217;s really just about $15 billion being added to the wholesale cost of some products via a tax, and then that tax money being distributed to consumers (mostly &#8212; there&#8217;s a corporate tax cut) to keep the cost borne by the corporation. This creates an impetuous by the corps to find ways to reduce that cost. Swinging $15 billion around in a $1 trillion economy will not ruin Canada.</p>
<p>This has been done in other countries with success before, Sweden did it during an economic downturn, with success.</p>
<p>Stephen Harper&#8217;s plan is to introduce carbon trading, which will increase corps&#8217; costs, and will not lessen the impact on consumers. Carbon will be necessary soon enough, and is in the Liberal&#8217;s policy book, but it is a laugh to see Harper essentially claiming that his own plan is &#8220;crazy.&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15535','Mark Francis'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15535','Mark Francis','\&quot;What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give taxayers a modest break. \&quot;\r\n\r\nCorps will avoid the tax by reducing emissions. This will allow them to pay less tax, increasing profits.\r\n\r\nThis will not trash Canada\'s economy. it\'s really just about $15 billion being added to the wholesale cost of some products via a tax, and then that tax money being distributed to consumers (mostly -- there\'s a corporate tax cut) to keep the cost borne by the corporation. This creates an impetuous by the corps to find ways to reduce that cost. Swinging $15 billion around in a $1 trillion economy will not ruin Canada.\r\n\r\nThis has been done in other countries with success before, Sweden did it during an economic downturn, with success.\r\n\r\nStephen Harper\'s plan is to introduce carbon trading, which will increase corps\' costs, and will not lessen the impact on consumers. Carbon will be necessary soon enough, and is in the Liberal\'s policy book, but it is a laugh to see Harper essentially claiming that his own plan is \&quot;crazy.\&quot;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike Harris</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/30/dont-let-facts-get-in-the-way-of-your-fearmongering/#comment-15533</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give tax[ayers a modest break. The libs line their pockets with new revenue(if they get elected) and the pollution still goes on. Then when the companies lose their profits and have to lay off thousands of workers because they have been carbon taxed to death then the liberals will have enough money to take care of all of us because they love to be the nanny state...i see all this as robin hood...the liberal steal from the rich to give to the poor. while the west is recording a major boom in their economy we in ont and the east are slowing down significantly&#62; WE CANT AFFORD THIS RIGHT NOW. THis will totally trash the economy of all of canada. right now alot of our wealth comes from minerals and we cant trash it because our manufacuting sector is slowly falling apart. it is a difficult situation to make but now is not a good time.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15533','Mike Harris'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15533','Mike Harris','What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give tax&#38;#91;ayers a modest break. The libs line their pockets with new revenue(if they get elected) and the pollution still goes on. Then when the companies lose their profits and have to lay off thousands of workers because they have been carbon taxed to death then the liberals will have enough money to take care of all of us because they love to be the nanny state...i see all this as robin hood...the liberal steal from the rich to give to the poor. while the west is recording a major boom in their economy we in ont and the east are slowing down significantly&#38;gt; WE CANT AFFORD THIS RIGHT NOW. THis will totally trash the economy of all of canada. right now alot of our wealth comes from minerals and we cant trash it because our manufacuting sector is slowly falling apart. it is a difficult situation to make but now is not a good time.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give tax[ayers a modest break. The libs line their pockets with new revenue(if they get elected) and the pollution still goes on. Then when the companies lose their profits and have to lay off thousands of workers because they have been carbon taxed to death then the liberals will have enough money to take care of all of us because they love to be the nanny state&#8230;i see all this as robin hood&#8230;the liberal steal from the rich to give to the poor. while the west is recording a major boom in their economy we in ont and the east are slowing down significantly&gt; WE CANT AFFORD THIS RIGHT NOW. THis will totally trash the economy of all of canada. right now alot of our wealth comes from minerals and we cant trash it because our manufacuting sector is slowly falling apart. it is a difficult situation to make but now is not a good time.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15533','Mike Harris'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15533','Mike Harris','What I want to see is what good this is going to do except take money from corporations and give tax&amp;#91;ayers a modest break. The libs line their pockets with new revenue(if they get elected) and the pollution still goes on. Then when the companies lose their profits and have to lay off thousands of workers because they have been carbon taxed to death then the liberals will have enough money to take care of all of us because they love to be the nanny state...i see all this as robin hood...the liberal steal from the rich to give to the poor. while the west is recording a major boom in their economy we in ont and the east are slowing down significantly&amp;gt; WE CANT AFFORD THIS RIGHT NOW. THis will totally trash the economy of all of canada. right now alot of our wealth comes from minerals and we cant trash it because our manufacuting sector is slowly falling apart. it is a difficult situation to make but now is not a good time.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(BTW, I believe it's just the BC carbon tax that exempts exports.)&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15531','Jennifer Smith'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15531','Jennifer Smith','(BTW, I believe it\'s just the BC carbon tax that exempts exports.)'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(BTW, I believe it&#8217;s just the BC carbon tax that exempts exports.)
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		<title>By: Red Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grumpy... you live in Saskatoon? Well, no wonder you're so cranky all the time. ;)&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15530','Red Tory'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15530','Red Tory','Grumpy... you live in Saskatoon? Well, no wonder you\'re so cranky all the time. ;)'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grumpy&#8230; you live in Saskatoon? Well, no wonder you&#8217;re so cranky all the time. <img src='http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300baud: I am seeking complete clarification on the matter. However, as you said, taxing exports is a problem.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15529','Mark Francis'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15529','Mark Francis','300baud: I am seeking complete clarification on the matter. However, as you said, taxing exports is a problem.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300baud: I am seeking complete clarification on the matter. However, as you said, taxing exports is a problem.
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		<title>By: 300baud</title>
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		<dc:creator>300baud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exports are not taxed for the emittions that went into their manufacture?  That seems like a gruesome oversight, but I guess if we do not apply a carbon tarriff to imports, without this all the manufacturing would just move 150km south.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15528','300baud'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15528','300baud','Exports are not taxed for the emittions that went into their manufacture?  That seems like a gruesome oversight, but I guess if we do not apply a carbon tarriff to imports, without this all the manufacturing would just move 150km south.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exports are not taxed for the emittions that went into their manufacture?  That seems like a gruesome oversight, but I guess if we do not apply a carbon tarriff to imports, without this all the manufacturing would just move 150km south.
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		<title>By: BCer in Toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>BCer in Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;40% of the revenue generated under Dionâ€™s plan comes from Alberta and Saskatchewan.&lt;/i&gt;

The extra that's generated here won't be coming from average Albertans, unless they drive 40 per cent more than everyone else. It will come from polluting corporations, owned by stockholders across Canada and the U.S. So it's hard to argue average Albertans will be more out of pocket. And should these corporations, despite their own tax cuts, chose to pass costs on, it will be passed on to customers across the country, not just Albertans. So the criticisms seem to ring hollow.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15527','BCer in Toronto'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15527','BCer in Toronto','&#60;i&#62;40% of the revenue generated under Dion&#226;€™s plan comes from Alberta and Saskatchewan.&#60;\/i&#62;\n\nThe extra that\'s generated here won\'t be coming from average Albertans, unless they drive 40 per cent more than everyone else. It will come from polluting corporations, owned by stockholders across Canada and the U.S. So it\'s hard to argue average Albertans will be more out of pocket. And should these corporations, despite their own tax cuts, chose to pass costs on, it will be passed on to customers across the country, not just Albertans. So the criticisms seem to ring hollow.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>40% of the revenue generated under Dionâ€™s plan comes from Alberta and Saskatchewan.</i></p>
<p>The extra that&#8217;s generated here won&#8217;t be coming from average Albertans, unless they drive 40 per cent more than everyone else. It will come from polluting corporations, owned by stockholders across Canada and the U.S. So it&#8217;s hard to argue average Albertans will be more out of pocket. And should these corporations, despite their own tax cuts, chose to pass costs on, it will be passed on to customers across the country, not just Albertans. So the criticisms seem to ring hollow.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15527','BCer in Toronto'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15527','BCer in Toronto','&lt;i&gt;40% of the revenue generated under Dion&acirc;€™s plan comes from Alberta and Saskatchewan.&lt;\/i&gt;\n\nThe extra that\'s generated here won\'t be coming from average Albertans, unless they drive 40 per cent more than everyone else. It will come from polluting corporations, owned by stockholders across Canada and the U.S. So it\'s hard to argue average Albertans will be more out of pocket. And should these corporations, despite their own tax cuts, chose to pass costs on, it will be passed on to customers across the country, not just Albertans. So the criticisms seem to ring hollow.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
		<link>http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/06/30/dont-let-facts-get-in-the-way-of-your-fearmongering/#comment-15526</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shell, BP and Suncor will also do well from the corporate tax cuts.

Keep in mind, though, that the tax shift exempts exports. As most of the oil from AB is exported, it's not clear how much AB will be affected.

See http://tinyurl.com/5c4ukl for more.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15526','Mark Francis'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15526','Mark Francis','Shell, BP and Suncor will also do well from the corporate tax cuts.\r\n\r\nKeep in mind, though, that the tax shift exempts exports. As most of the oil from AB is exported, it\'s not clear how much AB will be affected.\r\n\r\nSee http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5c4ukl for more.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shell, BP and Suncor will also do well from the corporate tax cuts.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, though, that the tax shift exempts exports. As most of the oil from AB is exported, it&#8217;s not clear how much AB will be affected.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5c4ukl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5c4ukl</a> for more.
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