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15690. Saskboy said on July 19, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Ah, but the BTs won’t “feel” good about themselves, they’ll just “know” they are the best.

15691. Stephen Taylor said on July 19, 2008 at 3:56 pm

You know Scott, I can’t be held responsible for your poor reading comprehension.

In my post I *call* for due process and admit that this seems to be a departure on this by many right-wingers who would rather let Khadr rot at Gitmo.

I say that many right-wingers have departed from their usual logic track on the topic and have embraced emotion instead.

Repatriation of Khadr does not make sense because his accusers are American. He should be tried before American courts. He should be afforded due process.

As for repatriation and “rule of law” as you state we should really be concerned about since to you they are inseparable as concepts, can you cite anything from statute which argues for his repatriation?

As for a Kool-Aid piece, my piece was an argument against the knee-jerking uncharacteristic emotional reaction on the right concerning Khadr.

Give it another read Scott.

15692. Stephen Taylor said on July 19, 2008 at 3:58 pm

From my article.

“Omar Khadr doesn’t himself deserve to released from jihadi limbo at Gitmo and tried before an American court. However, as individuals who are defending a society based upon key values such a due process, presumption of innocence, and the rule of law, we deserve it. Khadr’s present threat does not manifest itself in his illiberal hatred of our culture, it rests instead in the extent to which we are to make our own values malleable in order rationalize our understandable but illogical emotion.”

15694. slg said on July 19, 2008 at 6:02 pm

I find his statement about the right acting on what they know is true and the left on emotion.

Rather stupid isn’t it? Is he saying that no matter what the right is always right - is he saying the left have no logic?

You can be right on an issue and emotionally passionate about it.

Badly written, for sure. He’s gotten lost in his thoughts some how and it comes off as rambling.

The world is not that black and white and that’s where the right is wrong.

15695. Red Tory said on July 19, 2008 at 7:04 pm

Scott — Thanks for the links.

Stephen is half-right in basically saying that Harper is wrong, however, suggesting that the case be moved to a civilian court flies in the face of reality and I would argue that the reasons for not backing calls for Khadr’s repatriation are, ironically considering the prattle in his post, emotional ones. Specifically, feeling that to do so would be capitulation to the opposition and a loss of face. If, as Taylor says, that due process and rule of law are fundamental then, given the circumstances, the PM has no choice but to call for repatriation. Anything less is just meaningless posturing.

15696. Demosthenes said on July 19, 2008 at 10:31 pm

Taylor, none of what you’ve written here excuses you from the meaningless dribble of right-wing talking points that RT quoted on his blog.

“As a conservative, I have for the most part found intellectual solace in logic on issue tracks where my bleeding-heart friends usually hug the emotional left rail”?

Yeah, that sort of nonsense deserves exactly as much condemnation and scorn as RT and Scott are willing to give.

15697. Ted said on July 20, 2008 at 12:30 am

To think what would have happened if Chretien had more common sense and left Omar’s terrorist father in the Pakistani jail. Going to bat for people who hate your own country’s values, sometimes comes back to bite you.

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