Comments on: Conservatives own secret study supports a carbon tax. http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/ My personal opinions on social and political issues from a progressive standpoint. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:50:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: kwittet http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16386 kwittet Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:38:53 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16386 Thanks for the link. I work for a living so I dont have alot of time to read every link on every page. I am still confused though why the major media outlets havent run with this? I did leaf through most of that long and awfully BORING report today. It admits on many ocassions that assumptions are made to get the figures. To me that is not accurate science. Science is entering EXACT DATA in a controled situation and coming out with 100% right results. That is why there is so many people out there denying the fact that man is contibuting so much to global warming. I heard a British scientist on Charles Adler a few weeks ago saying that the average median temperature of the earth has actually RISEN 0.8 degrees the last two years. Look. I am not denying that we are doing damage to the enviroment because I know we are. Here are a few examples of my train of thought. The US dropped two atom bombs on Japan in 1945. Radaiation is the most toxic substance we create. Yet here were are less than 70 years later and people are living there again. I have seen many old movie clips of Canada and the US in our industrial revolution and the smog in the air was far worse then that what it is now. Somehow we got through those times and our weather patterns were normal for many years. This year alone due to weather we have had only a fraction of the smog days we had last year. The earth heals itself. Billions of years ago huge meteors hit earth engulfing the planet in dust and killing every living thing for many millions of years. Yet the earth healed and we are here. What we are pumping into our enviroment is miniscule compared to the meteors. Yes the Artic is melting. I just dont believe we are causing it. Al Gores dire predictions have made him a rich man but to say that we are more almighty than all of the conditions that created us and our weather and that we can alter it beyond repair is purely arrogance. So that is why any Carbon plan is wrong in my eyes whether it is Liberal or Conservative and especially Green Party. It is a sexy topic because of people like Gore who want to get rich scaring people that if we dont do something soon all life will end!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16386','kwittet'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16386','kwittet','Thanks for the link. I work for a living so I dont have alot of time to read every link on every page. I am still confused though why the major media outlets havent run with this? I did leaf through most of that long and awfully BORING report today. It admits on many ocassions that assumptions are made to get the figures. To me that is not accurate science. Science is entering EXACT DATA in a controled situation and coming out with 100% right results. That is why there is so many people out there denying the fact that man is contibuting so much to global warming. I heard a British scientist on Charles Adler a few weeks ago saying that the average median temperature of the earth has actually RISEN 0.8 degrees the last two years. Look. I am not denying that we are doing damage to the enviroment because I know we are. Here are a few examples of my train of thought. The US dropped two atom bombs on Japan in 1945. Radaiation is the most toxic substance we create. Yet here were are less than 70 years later and people are living there again. I have seen many old movie clips of Canada and the US in our industrial revolution and the smog in the air was far worse then that what it is now. Somehow we got through those times and our weather patterns were normal for many years. This year alone due to weather we have had only a fraction of the smog days we had last year. The earth heals itself. Billions of years ago huge meteors hit earth engulfing the planet in dust and killing every living thing for many millions of years. Yet the earth healed and we are here. What we are pumping into our enviroment is miniscule compared to the meteors. Yes the Artic is melting. I just dont believe we are causing it. Al Gores dire predictions have made him a rich man but to say that we are more almighty than all of the conditions that created us and our weather and that we can alter it beyond repair is purely arrogance. So that is why any Carbon plan is wrong in my eyes whether it is Liberal or Conservative and especially Green Party. It is a sexy topic because of people like Gore who want to get rich scaring people that if we dont do something soon all life will end!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks for the link. I work for a living so I dont have alot of time to read every link on every page. I am still confused though why the major media outlets havent run with this? I did leaf through most of that long and awfully BORING report today. It admits on many ocassions that assumptions are made to get the figures. To me that is not accurate science. Science is entering EXACT DATA in a controled situation and coming out with 100% right results. That is why there is so many people out there denying the fact that man is contibuting so much to global warming. I heard a British scientist on Charles Adler a few weeks ago saying that the average median temperature of the earth has actually RISEN 0.8 degrees the last two years. Look. I am not denying that we are doing damage to the enviroment because I know we are. Here are a few examples of my train of thought. The US dropped two atom bombs on Japan in 1945. Radaiation is the most toxic substance we create. Yet here were are less than 70 years later and people are living there again. I have seen many old movie clips of Canada and the US in our industrial revolution and the smog in the air was far worse then that what it is now. Somehow we got through those times and our weather patterns were normal for many years. This year alone due to weather we have had only a fraction of the smog days we had last year. The earth heals itself. Billions of years ago huge meteors hit earth engulfing the planet in dust and killing every living thing for many millions of years. Yet the earth healed and we are here. What we are pumping into our enviroment is miniscule compared to the meteors. Yes the Artic is melting. I just dont believe we are causing it. Al Gores dire predictions have made him a rich man but to say that we are more almighty than all of the conditions that created us and our weather and that we can alter it beyond repair is purely arrogance. So that is why any Carbon plan is wrong in my eyes whether it is Liberal or Conservative and especially Green Party. It is a sexy topic because of people like Gore who want to get rich scaring people that if we dont do something soon all life will end!!
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]]> By: SteveV http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16384 SteveV Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:50:38 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16384 If anyone has had the misfortune of wathcing the Con attack ad, that has dice in it, the gambling angle, they actually criticize Dion for not providing enough details of his plan before the election. I almost fell off my chair, these guys DELAYED their details, and they have the audacity to throw dirt. Off the charts AMAZING.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16384','SteveV'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16384','SteveV','If anyone has had the misfortune of wathcing the Con attack ad, that has dice in it, the gambling angle, they actually criticize Dion for not providing enough details of his plan before the election. I almost fell off my chair, these guys DELAYED their details, and they have the audacity to throw dirt. Off the charts AMAZING.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If anyone has had the misfortune of wathcing the Con attack ad, that has dice in it, the gambling angle, they actually criticize Dion for not providing enough details of his plan before the election. I almost fell off my chair, these guys DELAYED their details, and they have the audacity to throw dirt. Off the charts AMAZING.
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]]> By: Helena’s Greatest Hits - You’ve got mail « Radio Free Collingwood http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16381 Helena’s Greatest Hits - You’ve got mail « Radio Free Collingwood Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:01:01 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16381 [...] Scott’s DiaTribes discusses a secret Conservative report that shows the country could easily handle a carbon tax: [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16381','Helena&#8217;s Greatest Hits - You&#8217;ve got mail &laquo; Radio Free Collingwood'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16381','Helena&#8217;s Greatest Hits - You&#8217;ve got mail &laquo; Radio Free Collingwood','&#91;...&#93; Scott&#8217;s DiaTribes discusses a secret Conservative report that shows the country could easily handle a carbon tax: &#91;...&#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Scott’s DiaTribes discusses a secret Conservative report that shows the country could easily handle a carbon tax: [...]
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]]> By: Scott Tribe http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16379 Scott Tribe Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:37:16 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16379 Sigh.. Cousin... all you needed to do was look at the footnotes of the Carbon Tax link the Green Party provided... or that was a Senator McCoy's page. I'll provide it for you, but if you're going to shill fort Harper, at least do a better job of pretending you actually bothered to read links :) http://www.greenparty.ca/files/JaccardFullReport.pdf<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16379','Scott Tribe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16379','Scott Tribe','Sigh..\r\nCousin... all you needed to do was look at the footnotes of the Carbon Tax link the Green Party provided... or that was a Senator McCoy\'s page.\r\n\r\nI\'ll provide it for you, but if you\'re going to shill fort Harper, at least do a better job of pretending you actually bothered to read links :)\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.greenparty.ca\/files\/JaccardFullReport.pdf'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sigh..
Cousin… all you needed to do was look at the footnotes of the Carbon Tax link the Green Party provided… or that was a Senator McCoy’s page.

I’ll provide it for you, but if you’re going to shill fort Harper, at least do a better job of pretending you actually bothered to read links :)

http://www.greenparty.ca/files/JaccardFullReport.pdf

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]]> By: kwittet http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16378 kwittet Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:27:29 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16378 I followed all the links provided and yet dont see any actual PROOF that this so called document actually exists!! I am not saying it doesnt but I dont see the document so until it is shown then it is just rumour, and the fact that there is nothing in the news about this? Again you quote links as gospel yet the links provided show no proof. What you need is Chretien to post on here...a proof is a proof and if it is a good proof den it is proven...hell..we will all believe it then!!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16378','kwittet'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16378','kwittet','I followed all the links provided and yet dont see any actual PROOF that this so called document actually exists!! I am not saying it doesnt but I dont see the document so until it is shown then it is just rumour, and the fact that there is nothing in the news about this? Again you quote links as gospel yet the links provided show no proof. What you need is Chretien to post on here...a proof is a proof and if it is a good proof den it is proven...hell..we will all believe it then!!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I followed all the links provided and yet dont see any actual PROOF that this so called document actually exists!! I am not saying it doesnt but I dont see the document so until it is shown then it is just rumour, and the fact that there is nothing in the news about this? Again you quote links as gospel yet the links provided show no proof. What you need is Chretien to post on here…a proof is a proof and if it is a good proof den it is proven…hell..we will all believe it then!!!
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]]> By: ted http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/2008/09/15/conservatives-own-secret-study-supports-a-carbon-tax/#comment-16377 ted Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:28:31 +0000 http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com/?p=2365#comment-16377 Maybe they want to wait until after the election. I remember Bob Stanfield ran on wage and price controls, Trudeau ridiculed him in the election campaign, and voila, Trudeau got re-elected and brought in wage and price controls. Fast forward 1992. The Liberals ran against NAFTA and GST. We all know what happened. Conservatives are finally learning the Liberal tricks on getting elected. The Liberals had it coming.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16377','ted'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16377','ted','Maybe they want to wait until after the election.\r\n\r\nI remember Bob Stanfield ran on wage and price controls, Trudeau ridiculed him in the election campaign, and voila, Trudeau got re-elected and brought in wage and price controls.\r\n\r\nFast forward 1992. The Liberals ran against NAFTA and GST. We all know what happened.\r\n\r\nConservatives are finally learning the Liberal tricks on getting elected.\r\nThe Liberals had it coming.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Maybe they want to wait until after the election.

I remember Bob Stanfield ran on wage and price controls, Trudeau ridiculed him in the election campaign, and voila, Trudeau got re-elected and brought in wage and price controls.

Fast forward 1992. The Liberals ran against NAFTA and GST. We all know what happened.

Conservatives are finally learning the Liberal tricks on getting elected.
The Liberals had it coming.

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